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Background

Marvel Comics is a comics publishing company and one of the "big two" when it comes to Superhero comic books, alongside their competitor DC Comics. Founded in 1939 it was originally known as Timely Comics and created Superheroes such as The Original Human Torch, Namor and Captain America.

However it was only in the 1960s thanks to the creative renaissance from creators Jack Kirby, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. During this decade they created some of the most famous fictional characters of all time such as Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, The X-Men, The Fantastic Four, The Hulk and many more. This was when they changed their name to what we know now.

This period of time completely revolutionised the Superhero genre. Before this Superheroes weren't written to have much depth however Lee, Kirby and Ditko made their heroes as human as possible. As Lee liked to describe it "They had feet made out of clay" and paved the way for the humanisation of superheroes that we see nowadays. Marvel also tackled social issues such as prejudice and oppression in The X-Men and created the first black superhero, Black Panther.

Marvel is such a massive multiverse that their are thousands of variants of the superheroes, such as the Ultimate Universe that was created in the early 2000s. Because of how popular of an IP Marvel is, there have been multiple adaptations such as video games, books, television series' and many other forms of media. Most famously is the Marvel Cinematic Universe which is one of the highest grossing film franchises of all time.

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Power of the Verse

Disclaimer: We haven't discussed how powerful the Heralds are so I will only write about the Street Tier heroes because their stats have been agreed with by staff.

The Marvel Universe is vast verse with a lot of characters with different levels of power.

The 'weaker' characters of the verse are mainly known as "Street Tiers' because they more commonly deal with lower-level crime which would effect their local area rather than a planetary threat. In terms of Attack Potency these characters have many feats and scaling that makes 8-A believable. They also have a similar number of feats that they all basically scale to which puts them at FTL in reaction speeds. Note that doesn't account for their travel speed which can majorly depend.

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Regarding Consistency:

Much like their competitors, There are quite a few Inconsistencies which is to be expected due to how many writers have worked in Marvel. However this makes power scaling a lot trickier since there are instances of much weaker characters going toe-to-toe with other characters who should reasonably stomp them. This even applies to the cosmology since there are multiple instances of the universe being infinite in size but then there are other statements saying that the universe does in fact have an edge and is 1 trillion lightyears.

To combat this a lot of these inconsistency issues will be solved by which case has more evidence. For example while Spider-Man was not able to break titanium handcuffs this shouldn't discredit the multiple feats he has that go well above and beyond Wall level. This can be taken from the other side as well, using Spider-Man as an example, Spider-Man may have fought Silver Surfer once there is a lot more evidence for him being significantly weaker than the Surfer. In this case the scaling will be deemed unreliable.

Elaboration of Scaling:

How can Street Tiers be Multi-City Block if they can be harmed by Bullets?

This is a very relevant question to ask. All of the Street Tiers have been shot before and it has pierced their bodies so how can they survive such powerful explosives. This is similar to the case of consistency where there are multiple feats of these characters surviving explosions of these manner. Since these feats are viable they shouldn't be devalued by being harmed by bullets. You could make the exact same argument for Wonder Woman who has been shown to be hurt by bullets to a near lethal level. However this doesn't undervalue her surviving punches from characters like Superman. The same sort of logic applies to the Street Tier characters.

Fighting Hulk and Thor:

Fighting against Thor and Hulk has been used as an argument by many to scale characters like Spider-Man to Heralds. However there are multiple things wrong with this notion. For one Hulk's strength is heavily dependant on how angry he is so saying that in every single fight he gets into he is at the peak of his power is absolutely ridiculous. Especially since it is very consistent that Banner controls Hulk to hold back his strength so he does not kill people.

This a very similar circumstance for Thor as well since like Hulk he very consistently holds back his might as to not kill his opponents.

Calculations

Attack Potency/Durability:

Speed:

Lifting Strength:

Attack Potency/Durability: Speed:

Lifting Strength:

Characters

Earth-616 (Mainline Universe)

Earth-199999 (MCU)

Earth-96283 (Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy)

Earth-1610 (Ultimate Universe)

Other Continuities

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