The official discord link if you wish to join the discord: https://discord.gg/j5RKwCvAFu

Immortality: Difference between revisions

From The Codex
 
(19 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
==Background==
==Background==
'''Immortality''' is a state of being where the user is unable to die. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle. This is untrue as there's different kinds of immortality that exist and all of them are not created equally. Some merely stop aging and can still cause one to die from mortal wounds, sever injuries, diseases, etcetera. The following below are different levels of immortality, please note that some of them do occasionally merge with each other in definitions so we've given what the slight differences are for each time.
'''Immortality''' is a state of being '''where the user is unable to die'''. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle. This is untrue as there's different kinds of immortality that exist and all of them are not created equally. Some merely stop aging and can still cause one to die from mortal wounds, sever injuries, diseases, etcetera. The following below are different levels of immortality, please note that some of them do occasionally merge with each other in definitions so we've given what the slight differences are for each time.


==Levels of Immortality==
==Levels of Immortality==
 
===Type 1 - '''Ageless'''===
====Type 1 - '''Ageless/Longevity'''====
[[File:Ezgif-3-e9c5c012e2de.gif|center|400px]]
[[File:Ezgif-3-e9c5c012e2de.gif|center|400px]]
Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.
Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. Along with this as the user is truly ageless, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay they cannot decay away], being unbound by time. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.
*Users: [[Mr. Game & Watch]] [[Super Smash Bros.|(Super Smash Bros.)]]
*'''Users:''' [[Mr. Game & Watch]] [[Super Smash Bros.|(Super Smash Bros.)]]
 


====Type 2 - '''Amortality'''====
===Type 2 - '''Amortality'''===
[[File:00001113.jpg|center|400px]]
[[File:00001113.jpg|center|400px]]
The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.
The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.
*Users: [[Soul King (Bleach)]]
*'''Users:''' [[Flumpty Bumpty]] [[One Night at Flumpty's|(One Night at Flumpty's)]]
 
 
====Type 3 - '''[[Regeneration]]'''====
[[File:Type3.gif|center|400px]]
The user can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of their regeneration.
*Users: [[The Thing (Composite)|The Thing]]
 
 
====Type 4 - '''Protection from a Deity'''====
[[File:QpAYNzr.png|center|400px]]
The user is protected by a deity making them completely unable to die by normal means. The only way to truly kill them would require the user being stronger then the deity in question, removing the protection the user has from the deity. It should be noted that this isn't the same as reliance as the user in question is receiving protection from said being and isn't reliant on them existing.
*Users: [[Hat Kid]] [[A Hat in Time|(A Hat in Time)]]
 
 
====Type 5 - '''Life and Death Transcendence'''====
[[File:Ezgif-3-23d3689c7f46.gif|center|400px]]
The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. They are also [[Nondualism|unbound conventional life or death]], or [[Nonexistent Physiology|do not exist at all]], and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to [[Death Manipulation|death manipulation]]. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as [[Magic|magical based ones]], [[Soul Manipulation|soul based ones]], or [[Existence Erasure|erasing their very existence]] can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having [[Invulnerability|invulnerability]] will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.
*Users: [[Truth of the Universe]] [[Mother|(Mother)]]


===Type 3 - '''Life and Death Immunity'''===
[[File:Ezgif-3-b146b00d9e8f.gif|thumb|center|400px|The Darkness Beyond Time is a realm beyond all reality, temporality, and dimensionality, with Lavos existing there not being alive nor dead and beyond all concepts.]]
Given to characters with [[Dimensionless Existence]]
The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and [[Dimensionality|dimensionality]] (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. They are also [[Nondualism|unbound conventional life or death]], or [[Nonexistent Physiology|do not exist at all]], and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to [[Death Manipulation|death manipulation]].  The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as [[Magic|magical based ones]], [[Soul Manipulation|soul based ones]], or [[Erasure|erasing their very being]] can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having [[Invulnerability|invulnerability]] will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.
*'''Users:''' [[Demon Physiology|Demons]] [[Megami Tensei|(Megami Tensei)]], [[Lavos]] [[Chrono (Series)|(Chrono Cross)]]


====Type 6 - '''Resilience'''====
===Type 4- '''Immortal Metaphysical Aspect'''===
[[File:Type6.gif|center|400px]]
[[File:Brook%27s_head_One_Piece.gif|center|frameless|400px]]
The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of what they can withstand.
The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it, as their physical body means nothing to them as their metaphysical state (soul, essence, etcetera) can live on to either [[Possession|possess]] others or [[Regeneration|create a new form]], or exist purely in a metaphysical state and interact with reality. The level varies depending on the user. This can at times link together with the reliance immortality type, as they may rely on something making the destruction of their physical body irrelevant to them.
*Users: [[Ganondorf]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
*'''Users:'''


===Type 5 - '''Reliance'''===
[[File:Ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif|center|600px]]
This one falls into several categories:


====Type 7 - '''Undead'''====
*'''Reliance on an object:''' The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object. This can at times give them abilities such as [[Regeneration|regeneration]]. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
[[File:Tattoogirl.gif|center|400px]]
**'''Users:''' [[Hanako]] [[Toilet-Bound Hanako Kun|(Toilet-Bound Hanako Kun)]]
The user is already dead but somehow capable of moving and breathing thus making them by technicalities immortal. They are incapable of dying by standard methods unless a specific weakness is exploited. However, they fall under possible problems such as decay, soul manipulation, and existence erasure.
*Users: [[Composite Skeleton (West of Loathing)]]


*'''Reliance on a Person:''' The user cannot die as they are reliant to a person. This can at times give them abilities such as [[Regeneration|regeneration]]. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
**'''Users:'''


====Type 8 - '''Reliance'''====
*'''Reliance on a Concept:''' The user cannot die as they are reliant to a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as [[Regeneration|regeneration]]. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
[[File:Ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif|center|400px]]
**'''Users:''' [[Janemba (Shin Budokai)|Janemba]] [[Dragon Ball|(Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai)]]
The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object, person, or even a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Other examples can include being reliant on a reincarnation cycle, or being reliant of your true self existing in a higher plane.
*Users: [[SCP-682]] [[SCP Foundation|(SCP Foundation)]]


*'''Higher Being:''' The user is reliant of their true self existing in a higher plane. Until their true self from a higher plane is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
**'''Users:''' [[Dragon God]] [[Chrono (Verse)|(Chrono Cross)]]


====Type 9 - '''Infinite Replacements'''====
===Type 6 - '''Quantum Immortality'''===
[[File:Ezgif-3-4e00b361a658.gif|center|400px]]
[[File:Quantum.png|thumb|center|400px]]
The user has other versions and variations of them from other timelines, other points in said timeline or alternate Universes, who will continue to exist separate from the original version, meaning even destruction in the Present won't be enough to kill them permanently. Alternatively the user can always keep coming back to life with a new body each time no matter what's done to them without the need of alternate timelines.
The user is in a state where their consciousness will be preserved at all costs, causing any action that could kill them to become another timeline or cause it to not happen through different means, such as quantum tunneling, unlikely possibilities become possible, etcetera. Take for instance this example: "A man sits down before a gun, which is pointed at his head. This is no ordinary gun; it's rigged to a machine that measures the spin of a quantum particle. Each time the trigger is pulled, the spin of the quantum particle -- or quark -- is measured. Depending on the measurement, the gun will either fire, or it won't. If the quantum particle is measured as spinning in a clockwise motion, the gun will fire. If the quark is spinning counterclockwise, the gun won't go off. There'll only be a click. Nervously, the man takes a breath and pulls the trigger. The gun clicks. He pulls the trigger again. Click. And again: click. The man will continue to pull the trigger again and again with the same result: The gun won't fire. Although it's functioning properly and loaded with bullets, no matter how many times he pulls the trigger, the gun will never fire. He'll continue this process for eternity, becoming immortal."
*Users: [[Solaris]] (Sonic the Hedgehog), [[Conker the Squirrel]] [[Conker (Series)|(Conker's Bad Fur Day)]]
*'''Users:'''


===Type 7 - '''Limbo'''===
[[File:Boundary lad.gif|center|frameless|400px]]
The user is stuck in a "limbo" or moreso a state between "life and death". Unlike type 5 where the user is unbound by it, the user is still bound by the concept but exists between them. This makes them hard to kill as in most cases they're technically already dead but alive thus normal means cannot kill them.
*'''Users:'''


====Type 10 - '''Transcendent'''====
[[File:Ezgif-3-b146b00d9e8f.gif|thumb|center|400px|The Darkness Beyond Time is a realm beyond all reality, temporality, and dimensionality, with Lavos existing there not being alive nor dead and beyond all concepts]].
The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and [[Dimensionality|dimensionality]] (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. Given to characters with [[Dimensionless Existence]].
*Users: [[Golden Goddesses]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
[[Category:Powers and Abilities]]
[[Category:Powers and Abilities]]
{{Discussions}}

Latest revision as of 20:26, 16 June 2024

Background

Immortality is a state of being where the user is unable to die. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle. This is untrue as there's different kinds of immortality that exist and all of them are not created equally. Some merely stop aging and can still cause one to die from mortal wounds, sever injuries, diseases, etcetera. The following below are different levels of immortality, please note that some of them do occasionally merge with each other in definitions so we've given what the slight differences are for each time.

Levels of Immortality

Type 1 - Ageless

Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. Along with this as the user is truly ageless, they cannot decay away, being unbound by time. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.

Type 2 - Amortality

The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.

Type 3 - Life and Death Immunity

The Darkness Beyond Time is a realm beyond all reality, temporality, and dimensionality, with Lavos existing there not being alive nor dead and beyond all concepts.

Given to characters with Dimensionless Existence The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and dimensionality (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. They are also unbound conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to death manipulation. The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as magical based ones, soul based ones, or erasing their very being can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having invulnerability will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.

Type 4- Immortal Metaphysical Aspect

The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it, as their physical body means nothing to them as their metaphysical state (soul, essence, etcetera) can live on to either possess others or create a new form, or exist purely in a metaphysical state and interact with reality. The level varies depending on the user. This can at times link together with the reliance immortality type, as they may rely on something making the destruction of their physical body irrelevant to them.

  • Users:

Type 5 - Reliance

This one falls into several categories:

  • Reliance on an object: The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
  • Reliance on a Person: The user cannot die as they are reliant to a person. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
    • Users:
  • Reliance on a Concept: The user cannot die as they are reliant to a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Until the source is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.
  • Higher Being: The user is reliant of their true self existing in a higher plane. Until their true self from a higher plane is destroyed, the user themself cannot truly be killed.

Type 6 - Quantum Immortality

The user is in a state where their consciousness will be preserved at all costs, causing any action that could kill them to become another timeline or cause it to not happen through different means, such as quantum tunneling, unlikely possibilities become possible, etcetera. Take for instance this example: "A man sits down before a gun, which is pointed at his head. This is no ordinary gun; it's rigged to a machine that measures the spin of a quantum particle. Each time the trigger is pulled, the spin of the quantum particle -- or quark -- is measured. Depending on the measurement, the gun will either fire, or it won't. If the quantum particle is measured as spinning in a clockwise motion, the gun will fire. If the quark is spinning counterclockwise, the gun won't go off. There'll only be a click. Nervously, the man takes a breath and pulls the trigger. The gun clicks. He pulls the trigger again. Click. And again: click. The man will continue to pull the trigger again and again with the same result: The gun won't fire. Although it's functioning properly and loaded with bullets, no matter how many times he pulls the trigger, the gun will never fire. He'll continue this process for eternity, becoming immortal."

  • Users:

Type 7 - Limbo

The user is stuck in a "limbo" or moreso a state between "life and death". Unlike type 5 where the user is unbound by it, the user is still bound by the concept but exists between them. This makes them hard to kill as in most cases they're technically already dead but alive thus normal means cannot kill them.

  • Users: