User:Cerberusleuth/JOJO

CogDis stuff I guess

• 3-A ratings should be removed. The low-end comes off of two things
  • Giygas not showing to affect the whole timeline, especially since Zarbol/Buzz Buzz should be able to undo his destruction via time travel
    • CogDis's timeline =/= Mother's main timeline. The Mother Timeline is stated to be a different timeline from that of CogDis, meaning in order for Zarbol/Buzz Buzz to get there, it is via Dimensional Travel and not just Time Travel.
    • Giygas's "attacking through time" should also be present due to being an important plot point of Mother 2. It's the whole reason why the Chosen Four time travel to the past, there should be no way the Devs of CogDis missed this, especially considering CogDis involves time travel before fighting Giygas, much like Mother 2
      • I know what you are asking. No, the universe was not destroyed yet before/after they time traveled, so there's no 3-A anti-feat here
    • The Applechasers created another timeline at the good ending, meaning 2-C is blatant
  • The time crash seemingly killing the Applechasers
    • It is never explicitly stated that the time crash killed the Applechasers. Their fate is left ambiguous.
• Potential 2-A stuff
  • The Player is still a character in CogDis. Like in Mother 2, they're essential for defeating Giygas. The player is acknowledged to exists when the Lady at the Pigsnout Desk talks to them, saying "you up there", implying a higher level of existence. When the player enters their name, they're "in the computer now", meaning they had to use an "name/avatar" to interact with CogDis's existence. Furthermore, the player isn't effected by stuff such as the Time Crash or anything else in the game.
• Whoops, I forgot to add FTL movement via Nowhere Train.
  • Basically, when travelling to Earth, a leviathan catches the Nowhere Train, which can traverse the Solar System. The Applechasers fought this beast, meaning they scale to FTL
• NPI stuff, I guess
  • Pretty sure they fought some sort of Non-Physical enemies before fighting Giygas
• Key removals
  • Dividing the keys from Early, Mid, and Late Game seems highly redundant, since all of them are pretty much 8-B, and there are no hax differences. Colonel Saturn and Alinivar both quickly jump to Low 8-C to 8-B, considering how early Larice (a starman) joins the party, and Zarbol joining after (thus Zarbol having no Low 8-C keys).
    • Also, Alinivar is a Mook, who Ninten and Ness fights in the later stages in Mother and Mother 2. So, that might also ax the 9-B for Pre-PSI

MtG

• 9-A and High 8-C should go. The former comes from this calc, but it's via piercing damage and multiple numbers, so it isn't useable. The latter comes from a vague, uncalced feat Sorin did. With that being said, we need to find some feats to use and calc

Tier 9

• Dack Fayden can survive long falls (9-B)

Tier 8

• Ajani can use lightning (8-C)

Tier 7

• Ajani should upscale from his chosen, who can level mountains with their amps and together (Likely 7-A via amping)

Uncalced

• Angrath can slice through pillars and other stone material like a hot knife through butter
• Chandra can create flamewaves, which can be this large