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| ==CogDis stuff I guess==
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| *'''3-A''' ratings should be removed. The low-end comes off of two things
| | {{Quote|Do not treat your people as you treat your artifacts. Let them go, and they will live; seal them here, and they will die.}} |
| **Giygas not showing to affect the whole timeline, especially since Zarbol/Buzz Buzz should be able to undo his destruction via time travel
| | {{Quote|Every device in the rig is evidence of Thran enlightenment. All mana was the same to them, whether from rock or water, growth or decay. Can you imagine such unity of vision?}} |
| ***CogDis's timeline =/= Mother's main timeline. The Mother Timeline is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51phJrYcJmw&t=261s stated to be a different timeline from that of CogDis], meaning in order for Zarbol/Buzz Buzz to get there, it is via [[Dimensional Travel]] and not just [[Time Travel]].
| | ==Background== |
| ***Giygas's "attacking through time" should also be present due to being an important plot point of Mother 2. It's the whole reason why the Chosen Four time travel to the past, there should be no way the Devs of CogDis missed this, especially considering CogDis involves time travel before fighting Giygas, much like Mother 2
| | {{Quote|An artificer of unparalleled renown, Urza was a powerful cipher even before he was able to planeswalk. Seeing the world as a large, integrated machine is his greatest strength and weakness, enabling him to solve almost any problem but blinding him to his solutions’ effects on others.}} |
| ****I know what you are asking. No, the universe was not destroyed yet before/after they time traveled, so there's no '''3-A''' anti-feat here
| | ==Statistics== |
| ***The Applechasers [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNK-8rxRG2Y&t=1155s created another timeline] at the good ending, meaning '''2-C''' is blatant
| | '''[[Tiering System|Tier]]''': '''9-B''', at least '''High 8-C''' with the Might Stone | '''Low 1-C''' |
| **The time crash seemingly killing the Applechasers
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| ***It is never explicitly stated that the time crash killed the Applechasers. Their fate is left ambiguous.
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| *Potential '''2-A''' stuff
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| **The Player is still a character in CogDis. Like in Mother 2, [https://youtu.be/JNK-8rxRG2Y?t=1091 they're essential for defeating Giygas]. The player is acknowledged to exists when [https://youtu.be/-BM8Di2TKPY?list=PLdCAo1Aj5VhO_bKPyCfVP8qQIql-ST7kC&t=458 the Lady at the Pigsnout Desk talks to them, saying "you up there"], implying a higher level of existence. When the player enters their name, they're [https://youtu.be/-BM8Di2TKPY?list=PLdCAo1Aj5VhO_bKPyCfVP8qQIql-ST7kC&t=499 "in the computer now"], meaning they had to use an "name/avatar" to interact with CogDis's existence. Furthermore, the player isn't effected by stuff such as the Time Crash or anything else in the game.
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| *Whoops, I forgot to add '''FTL''' movement via Nowhere Train.
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| **Basically, when travelling to Earth, a leviathan catches the Nowhere Train, which can traverse the Solar System. The Applechasers fought this beast, meaning they scale to '''FTL'''
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| *NPI stuff, I guess
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| **Pretty sure they fought some sort of Non-Physical enemies before fighting Giygas
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| *Key removals
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| **Dividing the keys from Early, Mid, and Late Game seems highly redundant, since all of them are pretty much 8-B, and there are no hax differences. Colonel Saturn and Alinivar both quickly jump to '''Low 8-C''' to '''8-B''', considering how early Larice (a starman) joins the party, and Zarbol joining after (thus Zarbol having no Low 8-C keys).
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| ***Also, Alinivar is a Mook, who Ninten and Ness fights in the later stages in Mother and Mother 2. So, that might also ax the '''9-B''' for Pre-PSI
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| *9-A and High 8-C should go. The former comes from [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:WeeklyBattles/Magic_the_Gathering:_Akroans_Together_Strong this calc], but it's via piercing damage and multiple numbers, so it isn't useable. The latter comes from a vague, uncalced feat Sorin did. With that being said, we need to find some feats to use and calc
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| ===Tier 9===
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| *Dack Fayden [https://imgur.com/a/esRtN89 can survive] [https://imgur.com/a/dH6LJBy long] [https://imgur.com/a/unZTISl falls] ('''9-B''')
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| ===Tier 8===
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| ===Tier 7===
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| *Ajani should upscale from his chosen, [https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/82/ajanis-chosen?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki who can level mountains with their amps and together] (Likely '''7-A''' via amping)
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| Jaya can cause [https://scryfall.com/card/me2/134/lava-burst?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki mountains to erupt] ('''7-A''')
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| *Koth can [https://scryfall.com/card/nph/85/geosurge?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki erupt mountains] ('''7-A''')
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| ===Uncalced/Nonphysicals===
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| *[https://scryfall.com/card/war/185/angraths-rampage?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki Angrath can slice through pillars and other stone material like a hot knife through butter]
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| *[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/mtgsalvation_gamepedia/images/5/5e/Chandra%27s_Flame_Wave.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20201203193023 Chandra can create flamewaves], [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823336216077271054/947226762985762896/FlameWave__88424.png which can be this large]
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| *[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797657431366828092/907752297931632680/image0.png Chandra makes a massive explosion] [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797657431366828092/907752474188840970/image0.png after being dragged underwater]
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| *More Chandra feats [https://scryfall.com/card/ori/136/chandras-fury?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki here], [https://scryfall.com/card/ss3/5/pyroblast?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki here], and [https://scryfall.com/card/emn/143/spreading-flames?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki here]
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| *Jaya Ballard does... [https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/278/flame-rift?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki this]. '''HOW?! HOW DOES SHE DO IT? THIS ISN'T A C&P OF A CARD PRIOR TO THE MENDING! IS SHE ON THEROS?! HOW????????!!!!!!!!!!'''
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| *Jaya can create [https://scryfall.com/card/ice/223/wall-of-lava?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki walls of lava], [https://scryfall.com/card/ice/224/word-of-blasting?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki nuke walls], and [https://scryfall.com/card/ice/201/melting?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki snow to melt]
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| *Jace can [https://scryfall.com/card/p09/8/negate?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki block meteors] and [https://scryfall.com/card/roe/74/lay-bare?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki do this] with Telekinesis
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| *Karn makes a bastion [https://scryfall.com/card/war/248/karns-bastion?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki this big]
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| *While corrupted, Karn [https://scryfall.com/card/afc/198/argentum-armor?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki can shake Mirrodin with his power] (Either '''High 5-B''' or '''5-A''' with Reality Warping)
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| *Kiora can [https://scryfall.com/card/jou/44/kioras-dismissal?utm_source=mw_MTGWiki morph water]
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