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[[File:Kaido_Manga_Infobox.png|center|400px|Kaido is stated to be incapable of dying besides his countless suicide efforts.]]
==Background==
==Background==
'''Immortality''' is a state of being where the user is unable to die. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle.  
'''Immortality''' is a state of being where the user is unable to die. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle. This is untrue as there's different kinds of immortality that exist and all of them are not created equally. Some merely stop aging and can still cause one to die from mortal wounds, sever injuries, diseases, etcetera. The following below are different levels of immortality, please note that some of them do occasionally merge with each other in definitions so we've given what the slight differences are for each time.


==Levels of Immortality==
==Levels of Immortality==


====Type 1 - '''Ageless/Longevity'''====
====Type 1 - '''Ageless/Longevity'''====
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Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.
Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.
*Users: [[Mr. Game & Watch]] [[Super Smash Bros.|(Super Smash Bros.)]]
*Users: [[Mr. Game & Watch]] [[Super Smash Bros.|(Super Smash Bros.)]]
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====Type 2 - '''Amortality'''====
====Type 2 - '''Amortality'''====
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The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.
The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.
*Users: [[Soul King (Bleach)]]
*Users: [[Soul King (Bleach)]]
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====Type 3 - '''[[Regeneration]]'''====
====Type 3 - '''[[Regeneration]]'''====
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The user can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of their regeneration.
The user can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of their regeneration.
*Users: [[The Thing (Composite)|The Thing]]
*Users: [[The Thing (Composite)|The Thing]]
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====Type 4 - '''Protection from a Deity'''====
====Type 4 - '''Protection from a Deity'''====
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The user is protected by a deity making them completely unable to die by normal means. The only way to truly kill them would require the user being stronger then the deity in question, removing the protection the user has from the deity. It should be noted that this isn't the same as reliance as the user in question is receiving protection from said being and isn't reliant on them existing.
The user is protected by a deity making them completely unable to die by normal means. The only way to truly kill them would require the user being stronger then the deity in question, removing the protection the user has from the deity. It should be noted that this isn't the same as reliance as the user in question is receiving protection from said being and isn't reliant on them existing.
*Users: [[Hat Kid]] [[A Hat in Time|(A Hat in Time)]]
*Users: [[Hat Kid]] [[A Hat in Time|(A Hat in Time)]]
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====Type 5 - '''Life and Death Transcendence'''====
====Type 5 - '''Life and Death Transcendence'''====
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The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. They are also [[Nondualism|unbound conventional life or death]], or [[Nonexistent Physiology|do not exist at all]], and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to [[Death Manipulation|death manipulation]]. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as [[Magic|magical based ones]], [[Soul Manipulation|soul based ones]], or [[Existence Erasure|erasing their very existence]] can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having [[Invulnerability|invulnerability]] will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.
The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. They are also [[Nondualism|unbound conventional life or death]], or [[Nonexistent Physiology|do not exist at all]], and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to [[Death Manipulation|death manipulation]]. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as [[Magic|magical based ones]], [[Soul Manipulation|soul based ones]], or [[Existence Erasure|erasing their very existence]] can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having [[Invulnerability|invulnerability]] will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.
*Users: [[Truth of the Universe]] [[Mother|(Mother)]]
*Users: [[Truth of the Universe]] [[Mother|(Mother)]]
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====Type 6 - '''Resilience'''====
====Type 6 - '''Resilience'''====
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The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of what they can withstand.
The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of what they can withstand.
*Users: [[Ganondorf]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
*Users: [[Ganondorf]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
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====Type 7 - '''Undead'''====
====Type 7 - '''Undead'''====
[[File:Tattoogirl.gif|center|400px]]
The user is already dead but somehow capable of moving and breathing thus making them by technicalities immortal. They are incapable of dying by standard methods unless a specific weakness is exploited. However, they fall under possible problems such as decay, soul manipulation, and existence erasure.
The user is already dead but somehow capable of moving and breathing thus making them by technicalities immortal. They are incapable of dying by standard methods unless a specific weakness is exploited. However, they fall under possible problems such as decay, soul manipulation, and existence erasure.
*Users: [[Composite Skeleton (West of Loathing)]]
*Users: [[Composite Skeleton (West of Loathing)]]
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====Type 8 - '''Reliance'''====
====Type 8 - '''Reliance'''====
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The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object, person, or even a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Other examples can include being reliant on a reincarnation cycle, or being reliant of your true self existing in a higher plane.
The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object, person, or even a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Other examples can include being reliant on a reincarnation cycle, or being reliant of your true self existing in a higher plane.
*Users: [[SCP-682]] [[SCP Foundation|(SCP Foundation)]]
*Users: [[SCP-682]] [[SCP Foundation|(SCP Foundation)]]
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====Type 9 - '''Infinite Replacements'''====
====Type 9 - '''Infinite Replacements'''====
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The user has other versions and variations of them from other timelines, other points in said timeline or alternate Universes, who will continue to exist separate from the original version, meaning even destruction in the Present won't be enough to kill them permanently. Alternatively the user can always keep coming back to life with a new body each time no matter what's done to them without the need of alternate timelines.
The user has other versions and variations of them from other timelines, other points in said timeline or alternate Universes, who will continue to exist separate from the original version, meaning even destruction in the Present won't be enough to kill them permanently. Alternatively the user can always keep coming back to life with a new body each time no matter what's done to them without the need of alternate timelines.
*Users: [[Solaris]] (Sonic the Hedgehog), [[Conker the Squirrel]] [[Conker (Series)|(Conker's Bad Fur Day)]]
*Users: [[Solaris]] (Sonic the Hedgehog), [[Conker the Squirrel]] [[Conker (Series)|(Conker's Bad Fur Day)]]
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====Type 10 - '''Transcendent'''====
====Type 10 - '''Transcendent'''====
[[File:Ezgif-3-b146b00d9e8f.gif|thumb|center|400px|The Darkness Beyond Time is a realm beyond all reality, temporality, and dimensionality, with Lavos existing there not being alive nor dead and beyond all concepts]].
The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and [[Dimensionality|dimensionality]] (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. Given to characters with [[Dimensionless Existence]].
The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and [[Dimensionality|dimensionality]] (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. Given to characters with [[Dimensionless Existence]].
*Users: [[Golden Goddesses]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
*Users: [[Golden Goddesses]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]]
[[Category:Powers and Abilities]]
[[Category:Powers and Abilities]]
{{Discussions}}
{{Discussions}}

Revision as of 23:48, 29 October 2021

Background

Immortality is a state of being where the user is unable to die. A usual misconception in vs debating is that since this is the case they cannot die whatsoever and will automatically win the battle. This is untrue as there's different kinds of immortality that exist and all of them are not created equally. Some merely stop aging and can still cause one to die from mortal wounds, sever injuries, diseases, etcetera. The following below are different levels of immortality, please note that some of them do occasionally merge with each other in definitions so we've given what the slight differences are for each time.

Levels of Immortality

Type 1 - Ageless/Longevity

Perfect form of longevity. The user cannot age, thus preventing death via senescence. They are essentially resistant to standard age manipulation. However, they are still vulnerable to mortal wounds, severe injuries, diseases/viruses, and foreign substances. Meaning they can be taken down in physical combat.


Type 2 - Amortality

The user exists as an unborn, rendering them unable to die due to not being alive to begin with. The user may not have been alive in the very beginning of time or even before creation. The user essentially lives in a state of unbirth, neither living nor dead. Granting them resistance to abilities such as life and death manipulation. However, they are still susceptible to abilities such as being erased from existence.


Type 3 - Regeneration

The user can simply regenerate from wounds that would normally be lethal. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of their regeneration.


Type 4 - Protection from a Deity

The user is protected by a deity making them completely unable to die by normal means. The only way to truly kill them would require the user being stronger then the deity in question, removing the protection the user has from the deity. It should be noted that this isn't the same as reliance as the user in question is receiving protection from said being and isn't reliant on them existing.


Type 5 - Life and Death Transcendence

The user is immune to physical and mental damage, toxins and pathogens. They are also unbound conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed, granting them resistance to death manipulation. However, if they are somehow harmed, they will not be able to regenerate from that harm and will not come back if killed. Attacks such as magical based ones, soul based ones, or erasing their very existence can harm them. It should also be noted that simply having invulnerability will not grant one this type as one must be shown to be a deathless being.


Type 6 - Resilience

The user is capable of surviving lethal injuries without any need to heal from it. However, the effectiveness depends on the degree of what they can withstand.


Type 7 - Undead

The user is already dead but somehow capable of moving and breathing thus making them by technicalities immortal. They are incapable of dying by standard methods unless a specific weakness is exploited. However, they fall under possible problems such as decay, soul manipulation, and existence erasure.


Type 8 - Reliance

The user cannot die as they are reliant to an object, person, or even a concept. This can at times give them abilities such as regeneration. Other examples can include being reliant on a reincarnation cycle, or being reliant of your true self existing in a higher plane.


Type 9 - Infinite Replacements

The user has other versions and variations of them from other timelines, other points in said timeline or alternate Universes, who will continue to exist separate from the original version, meaning even destruction in the Present won't be enough to kill them permanently. Alternatively the user can always keep coming back to life with a new body each time no matter what's done to them without the need of alternate timelines.


Type 10 - Transcendent

The Darkness Beyond Time is a realm beyond all reality, temporality, and dimensionality, with Lavos existing there not being alive nor dead and beyond all concepts

.

The user is not alive or dead in a conventional sense, standing outside the ordinary laws of reality, temporality, and dimensionality (of any number). If it is possible to destroy such a character, it can only be accomplished by a being or attack of a similar or higher existence. Given to characters with Dimensionless Existence.

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