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Forum - Undertale Revisions: My Problem with Asriel

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[#77]

I have some issues with the way Asriel is portrayed, so I'm here to share my perspective. If we go by the narrative, Asriel must defeat the human in order to gain control over the timeline, and only then will he reduce all of their progress to 0. However, it is important to take into account that Asriel does not enter his God of Hyper Death form until the point where it is stated that "The whole world is ending," which reinforces the idea that, when he used the Hyper Goner, he did not destroy the timeline. This interpretation is further supported by the fact that Human is capable of dodging the attack, and even Napstablook was able to witness it from inside his own house. Taken together, these details suggest that the Hyper Goner, by itself, did not immediately destroy the timeline. Rather, the actual process of ending the world and obtaining complete control over it occurs afterward, this takes into account that he wanted the world and his friends to forget about humanity so that it would lose control of the timeline therefore, destroying it would be very foolish. In fact, the point is for the human to help them recover their memories, since Frisk loses their ability to move their body or use their save file; that's why it's mentioned that saving the game is impossible.

But he can still maintain his Unknown: Cosmic level due to his infinite stats, but with this I want to demonstrate that, narratively, Toby Fox only wanted to show that when Asriel refers to destroying the timeline, he is only erasing Frisk's progress and it is not a cosmic destruction.

Posted by Eldrazi Kido160 on 11 July 2026 at 01:27.

Maybe about 2-3 years ago I would've disagreed but this does paint a far better narrative interpretation for the Asriel fight then just assuming he's a timeline nuker. On top of that too, we have an actual visual of what happens when the world is destroyed with Chara so I agree in this removal.

Posted by GiverOfThePeace (administrator) on 11 July 2026 at 01:31.

Honestly, from the information I know about it and as you present it, this makes a lot of sense and I do not have any arguments against it. Well done.

Posted by AuroraNyghtLyghts (administrator) on 11 July 2026 at 06:41.

I think since 2 mods agreed with the changes that this is okay to go through.

Posted by GiverOfThePeace (administrator) on 12 July 2026 at 16:20.