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User:Rocco is a gamer/Why MG/MGS Characters Aren't Tier 8 And Above
This blog is to explain why various MG/MGS feats and calcs are not valid feats for Solid Snake and various other Metal Gear characters.
Tier 8
Naked Snake tanks 10,000,000 Volts
Multiple things wrong with this feat. For one Naked Snake isn't tanking it as he is clearly burned by Volgin's lightning as shown by the smoking coming off his body and the black spots on his body. Along with this even if he was he wouldn't be fully tanking it as lightning discharges energy throughout the air along with it usually taking paths through the body when the body is hit by lightning. Normal people can survive lighting because of this reason. See Lightning Standards for more information on why lightning feats aren't used.
Old Snake withstands Vaporization
In Metal Gear Solid 4 Old Snake can withstand the heat from a microwave hallway that can vaporize people. The problem with this is that this is just Heat Resistance as the vaporization is due to radiation.
Big Boss pushes back Cocoon
The calc tries to find the mass of cocoon by using the mass of a tank and then applying the measurements of cocoon to the formula Mass of Tank(Cocoon Length/Tank Length) to get Cocoon's mass. Problem is this calc assuming both Cocoon and a M60 Patton are made of similar martials and have a similar hollowness to them when we have no proof of either. Also the calc uses KE in a way that doesn't meet the KE standards.
Venom Snake tanks a tank
Venom is only no selling this feat through game mechanics. For one Venom Snake and Big Boss are harmed by the exterior blast of tank explosives and have to leave the tank when its about to explode in other to survive normally. Also Big Boss can't harm any tank like boss without lethal weapons during MGS:PW[1]. What's happening here is a dev oversite as the player is not intended to be in the tank while it explodes in newer versions of the game this feat is only possible through the invisibility camos where the enemies don't detect snake in the tank.
Scaling to Metal Gears
Snake and co. do not scale to Metal Gears period. In various Metal Gear games the characters needs weapons to even harm Metal Gears along with this, Gray Fox easily got crushed to death by Metal Gear REX, Solid Snake nearly gets knocked out by Metal Gear REX's explosive from a distance, Big Boss can't harm Peace Walker and Metal Gear Zeke without lethal weapons[1] (which are bipedal tanks that already don't scale to the 8-B Metal Gear Sahelanthropus dura feat as they are older technology), and Venom Snake gets one shotted by weapons that don't one shot Metal Gear Sahelanthropus.
Tier 7
Scaling to Railguns
Metal Gear REX's Railgun is able to fire projectiles at speeds over 100km/s and its KE when firing a nuke was calculated to be 2.007 Kilotons. The thing is this though Snake never tanks a hit from this Railgun and the other characters "tank" hits from technologically interior Railguns. I say tank in quotations cause they only tank it via game mechanics. How do we know this? For one Snake's Mini Railgun from MGS4 one shots enemies that Snake can't one shot himself. Metal Gear Sahelanthropus' Railgun also nearly one-shots Venom Snake even when armored. Along with this far weaker weapons have shown to be a threat to or superior to various metal gear characters.
Scaling to Metal Gear Rising
This comes from a statement by Raiden where he says nobody can stop Snake. The problem is this very conversation proves that Raiden is referring to Snake's sheer will "He knows what's, and he gets it done. period.". Even then if nobody can stop Snake in combat that still doesn't mean Snake is physically superior to the MGR cast. Snake has various ways of taking down enemies non physically suing things like by using weapons or tranquiller darts. Along with all of this MGR;R isn't even a part of the main story with it being excluded from the official timeline. Along with this Kojima stated that it is a parallel story continuation of the Metal Gear Saga. Kojima also stated that MG1, MG2, MGS1, MGS2, MGS3, MGS4, MGS:PW, MGSV:GZ, and MGSV:TPP are the only games apart of the Metal Gear Saga. While it is non-canon the Jamais Vu mission of MGSV:GZ implies that MGR:R is a parallel world with Raiden being from another world rather than just being stated to be from the distant future.
Psycho Mantis' Weather Manipulation
The feat comes from Psycho Mantis being stated to one of if not the strongest physic in Metal Gear and powerful physics are able can create natural disasters. This all fine in all but we don't know how dangerous these disasters are or what type of disasters they are. Along with this there is no proof Psycho Mantis even scales to these physically as he never uses his Weather Manipulation in any of the games he's appeared in. Even if this statement could be tiered and even if somehow Snake scales to it it would be a massive outlier as Metal Gear is far most constantly Tier 9.
