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==Introduction==
==Introduction==
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==Classification==
==Classification==
'''Type 1:''' '''Non-Dimensional:''' Those whose nature lacks any form of dimensionality. Specifically, these are [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_quantity adimensional] objects that can be found in universes with an emphasis on very advanced mathematics and geometry, such as ultimate ensembles, or in universes where there are characters with various dimensionless characteristics. In this state they will be atemporal and aspatial objects, meaning the concept of physics has no influence on them. They usually fall under a [[Nondualism|transdual nature]], which makes them physically invulnerable. Such characters have the same capabilities as [[Higher-Dimensional Existence|high-dimensional entities]], only being superior in relation to any geometric size, that is, any type of physics will be insignificant in comparison to them. Non-Dimensional things can also be [[Personal Nonexistence|nonexistent realms/beings]].
'''Type 1:''' '''Non-Dimensional:''' Those whose nature lacks any form of dimensionality. Specifically, these are [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensionless_quantity adimensional] objects that can be found in universes with an emphasis on very advanced mathematics and geometry, such as ultimate ensembles, or in universes where there are characters with various dimensionless characteristics. In this state they will be atemporal and aspatial objects, meaning the concept of physics has no influence on them. They usually fall under a [[Nondualism|transdual nature]], which makes them physically invulnerable. Such characters have the same capabilities as [[Higher-Dimensional Existence|high-dimensional entities]], only being superior in relation to any geometric size, that is, any type of physics will be insignificant in comparison to them. Non-Dimensional things can also be [[Personal Nonexistence|nonexistent realms/beings]]. At higher levels these beings 
nature is not only different but also superior to dimensionality.  


* '''Examples:''' [[Giygas]] [[MOTHER|(MOTHER 2)]]
* '''Examples:''' [[Chozo Ghost]] [[Metroid (Verse)|(Metroid)]], [[Lavos]] [[Chrono (Verse)|(Chrono Cross)]]


'''Type 2:''' '''Beyond-Dimensional:''' Dimensionless beings whose nature is not only different but also superior to dimensionality. The difference between Non-Dimensional beings and Beyond-dimensional is while non-dimensional beings can be considered adimensional objectS, beyond-dimensional beings essentially have a level of [[Transcendence|transcendence]].


* '''Examples:''' [[Golden Goddesses]] [[The Legend of Zelda|(The Legend of Zelda)]], [[Chozo Ghost]] [[Metroid (Verse)|(Metroid)]], [[Lavos]] [[Chrono (Verse)|(Chrono Cross)]]
'''Type 2:''' '''Boundless Existence:''' This is a being in a state beyond and unbound by everything, essentially the equivalent of [[Transcendence|true transcendence]]. This is typically only reserved to characters at tier '''High 1-A'''.


'''Type 3:''' '''Hierarchless Existence:''' This is a being in a state beyond and unbound by all heiarchies. This is typically only reserved to characters at tier '''High 1-A'''.
* '''Examples:''' [[Protagonist (Shin Megami Tensei V)|Nahobino]] [[Megami Tensei|(Shin Megami Tensei V)]], [[Sailor Moon]] [[Sailor Moon (Series)|(Sailor Moon)]]


==Valid Examples of Dimensionless Existence==
==Valid Examples of Dimensionless Existence==
*'''The Darkness Beyond Time:''' [https://youtu.be/bf7XXMl-bJc?list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=3982 The Darkness Beyond Time is directly stated to be a plane beyond dimensions], [https://youtu.be/JdFzy4ke6wc?list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=2803 requiring an object that transcends space-time to reach]. [https://chrono.fandom.com/wiki/Darkness_At_The_End_Of_Timein With it's other name being the "Darkness Beyond Time"]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=7&v=td4e3SrpmuE&feature=youtu.be Being an area with no beginning or end]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7XXMl-bJc&list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=3821s All things erased go to the Darkness Beyond Time, showing it's a dimensionless void].
*'''The Darkness Beyond Time:''' [https://youtu.be/bf7XXMl-bJc?list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=3982 The Darkness Beyond Time is directly stated to be a plane beyond dimensions], [https://youtu.be/JdFzy4ke6wc?list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=2803 requiring an object that transcends space-time to reach]. [https://chrono.fandom.com/wiki/Darkness_At_The_End_Of_Timein With it's other name being the "Darkness Beyond Time"]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=7&v=td4e3SrpmuE&feature=youtu.be Being an area with no beginning or end]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf7XXMl-bJc&list=PLlc94szfcNDH4dwyFm1JJ0M-D2sCJZeQm&t=3821s All things erased go to the Darkness Beyond Time, showing it's a dimensionless void].


*'''The Heavens:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tHItL1xLs In The Legend of Zelda the heavens is a realm pre-dating even the primordial void of Hyrule, all concepts were created after the Heaven's Existence and it exists above all concepts created by the] [[Golden Goddesses]], [https://youtu.be/4mpD0xXqRg8?t=263 including dimensions]. [[User_blog:GiverOfThePeace/Clearing_Up_Golden_Goddesses_Tiering|More on how the heavens work can be found here]].
*'''The Heavens:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4tHItL1xLs In The Legend of Zelda the heavens is a realm pre-dating even the primordial void of Hyrule, all concepts were created after the Heaven's Existence and it exists above all concepts created by the] [[Golden Goddesses]], [https://youtu.be/4mpD0xXqRg8?t=263 including dimensions].


==Possible Uses==
==Possible Uses==
===Type 1===
===Abilities===
====Abilities====
*'''[[Acausality]]:''' Causality Immunity; As they are atemporal and aspatial, they are completely immune to time and thus causality.
*'''[[Acausality]]:''' Causality Immunity; As they are atemporal and aspatial, they are completely immune to time and thus causality.


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*'''[[Nondualism]]:''' Many characters of this kind are detached in relation to duality in addition to the concepts of space and time and other dualities.
*'''[[Nondualism]]:''' Many characters of this kind are detached in relation to duality in addition to the concepts of space and time and other dualities.


*'''[[Speed|Extra-Temporal Speed]]:''' The concept of distance (at least in a spatial-dimension sense) does not apply to them. The concept of speed is inapplicable.  
*'''[[Timeless Physiology]]:''' The concept of distance (at least in a spatial-dimension sense) does not apply to them. The concept of speed is inapplicable.  


*'''[[Higher-Dimensional Manipulation]]:''' In many cases, these beings possess the same capabilities as [[Higher-Dimensional Existence|higher-dimensional ones]], but on a level where any dimensional size does not matter.
*'''[[Higher-Dimensional Manipulation]]:''' In many cases, these beings possess the same capabilities as [[Higher-Dimensional Existence|higher-dimensional ones]], but on a level where any dimensional size does not matter.


*'''[[Intangibility]]:''' Aspatial & Atemporal; An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time.
*'''[[Intangibility]]:''' Aspatial & Atemporal; An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time.
====Resistances====
*'''[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Physical Attacks]]:''' An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time, thus no real physical attack would apply to them.
*'''[[Physics Manipulation]]:''' As they are not apart of the universal space-time, they are not bound by the standard laws of physics.
*'''[[Space-Time Manipulation]]:''' As they are aspatial and atemporal, they are immune to any real idea related to the concept of space-time.
*'''[[Gravity Manipulation]]:''' As they are aspatial and atemporal, they have no real relation to gravity.
*'''[[Fate Manipulation]]:''' As they are aspatial and atemporal, they have no real connection to the threads of fate.
===Type 2===
*'''[[Acausality]]:''' Causality Immunity; As they are atemporal and aspatial, they are completely immune to time and thus causality.
*'''[[Reality Separation]]:''' Their natural existence would be such due to not being bound by any axis.
*'''[[Speed|Extra-Temporal Speed]]:''' The concept of distance (at least in a spatial-dimension sense) does not apply to them. The concept of speed is inapplicable.
*'''[[Nondualism]]:''' Many characters of this kind are transcendent in relation to duality in addition to the concepts of space and time and other dualities.
*'''[[Higher-Dimensional Manipulation]]:''' In many cases, these beings possess the same capabilities as [[Higher-Dimensional Existence|higher-dimensional ones]], but on a level where any dimensional size does not matter.


*'''[[Transcendence]]:''' Many characters of this kind are transcendent in relation to space and time, being above reality itself.
*'''[[Transcendence]]:''' Many characters of this kind are transcendent in relation to space and time, being above reality itself.
 
===Resistances===
*'''[[Intangibility]]:''' Aspatial & Atemporal; An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time.
====Resistances====
*'''[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Physical Attacks]]:''' An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time, thus no real physical attack would apply to them.
*'''[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Physical Attacks]]:''' An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time, thus no real physical attack would apply to them.


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*'''[[Fate Manipulation]]:''' As they are aspatial and atemporal, they have no real connection to the threads of fate.
*'''[[Fate Manipulation]]:''' As they are aspatial and atemporal, they have no real connection to the threads of fate.
===Notes===
===Notes===
*Dimensionless Existence requires dimension to be mentioned or related in some way whether it be a character transcends dimensions or in the example linked with the Darkness Beyond Time, it is directly stated to be a plane beyond dimensions.
*Dimensionless Existence requires dimension to be mentioned or related in some way whether it be a character transcends dimensions or in the example linked with the Darkness Beyond Time, it is directly stated to be a plane beyond dimensions.
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**To add on to this, one cannot get Dimensionless Existence for existing in a higher plane beyond space and time as this doesn't prove they're dimensionless but can merely enter a realm of this nature, in other cases it can be a higher temporal realm, an atemporal/aspatial realm, or merely just a higher hierarchy that can still be a standard 3-D reality.
**To add on to this, one cannot get Dimensionless Existence for existing in a higher plane beyond space and time as this doesn't prove they're dimensionless but can merely enter a realm of this nature, in other cases it can be a higher temporal realm, an atemporal/aspatial realm, or merely just a higher hierarchy that can still be a standard 3-D reality.


*Dimensionless Existence can be given through being a pure void, existing outside or before the multiverse or transcending concepts. Transcending '''all''' concepts could potentially grant type 2 depending on the circumstance. However, do not use a character transcending multiple concepts as a reason for why they would qualify for all.  
*Dimensionless Existence can be given through being a pure void, existing outside or before the multiverse or transcending concepts. Transcending '''all''' concepts could potentially grant dimensionless existence depending on the circumstance. However, do not use a character transcending multiple concepts as a reason for why they would qualify for all.  
**Additionally being a plane or space outside of universes and space-time alone would not qualify.
**Additionally being a plane or space outside of universes and space-time alone would not qualify.


*Dimensionless Existence is not given through a character destroying all dimensions and still existing or alternatively a character getting hit by this attack and still existing. Both of these are merely a [[Resistance]] to [[Dimension Manipulation]] & [[Higher-Dimensional Manipulation]].
*Dimensionless Existence is not given through a character destroying all dimensions and still existing or alternatively a character getting hit by this attack and still existing. Both of these are merely a [[Resistance]] to [[Dimension Manipulation]].


*Dimensionless Existence is not given through existing beyond a dimensional being. This does not prove one is dimensionless, just that they're beyond an N-dimension. Such as a 4D being is dimensionally beyond a 3D being.
*Dimensionless Existence is not given through existing beyond a dimensional being. This does not prove one is dimensionless, just that they're beyond an N-dimension. Such as a 4D being is dimensionally beyond a 3D being.


*Dimensionless Existence is not given through being '''Low 1-A''' or '''1-A''' as stated prior it has nothing to do with the tiering system and one can be '''Low 1-A'''/'''1-A''' while still being 3-D.
*Dimensionless Existence is not given through being '''1-A''' as stated prior it has nothing to do with the tiering system and one can be '''1-A''' while still being 3-D.


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Latest revision as of 19:07, 29 July 2024

Introduction

Dimensionless Existence is a the state of being for characters who lack (or in some cases are superior) to the concept of dimensions. They are much different than merely zero-dimensional creatures, as rather than simply lacking axis of movement making them geometrically infinitesimal in every possible direction, they conceptually lack or are superior to the concepts of dimensional physics. In fiction, these tend to be portrayed as an ability that makes the character essentially untouchable or they can be a super cosmic beings of a higher order than any-dimensional creatures though at the end of the day it's still treated as an ability.

As noted, these characters that have no dimensional limitations. A being or an object which is outside or beyond the concept of dimensions. This is something completely formless, abstract, metaphysical and transcendental. The usual scale does not make sense against a beyond dimensional object. Such beings can not be affected by destruction within the dimensions of time and space, or physical matter and energy. Within such a beyond dimensional "space", a dimensional structure with any number of dimensions can be placed, because there are no restrictions regarding dimensions.

Classification

Type 1: Non-Dimensional: Those whose nature lacks any form of dimensionality. Specifically, these are adimensional objects that can be found in universes with an emphasis on very advanced mathematics and geometry, such as ultimate ensembles, or in universes where there are characters with various dimensionless characteristics. In this state they will be atemporal and aspatial objects, meaning the concept of physics has no influence on them. They usually fall under a transdual nature, which makes them physically invulnerable. Such characters have the same capabilities as high-dimensional entities, only being superior in relation to any geometric size, that is, any type of physics will be insignificant in comparison to them. Non-Dimensional things can also be nonexistent realms/beings. At higher levels these beings nature is not only different but also superior to dimensionality.


Type 2: Boundless Existence: This is a being in a state beyond and unbound by everything, essentially the equivalent of true transcendence. This is typically only reserved to characters at tier High 1-A.

Valid Examples of Dimensionless Existence

Possible Uses

Abilities

  • Acausality: Causality Immunity; As they are atemporal and aspatial, they are completely immune to time and thus causality.
  • Reality Separation: Their natural existence would be such due to not being bound by any axis.
  • Nondualism: Many characters of this kind are detached in relation to duality in addition to the concepts of space and time and other dualities.
  • Timeless Physiology: The concept of distance (at least in a spatial-dimension sense) does not apply to them. The concept of speed is inapplicable.
  • Intangibility: Aspatial & Atemporal; An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time.
  • Transcendence: Many characters of this kind are transcendent in relation to space and time, being above reality itself.

Resistances

  • Physical Attacks: An aspatial and atemporal being has no real physicality as they are disconnected from the universal space-time, thus no real physical attack would apply to them.
  • Physics Manipulation: As they are not apart of the universal space-time, they are not bound by the standard laws of physics.
  • Space-Time Manipulation: As they are aspatial and atemporal, they are immune to any real idea related to the concept of space-time.
  • Fate Manipulation: As they are aspatial and atemporal, they have no real connection to the threads of fate.

Notes

  • Dimensionless Existence requires dimension to be mentioned or related in some way whether it be a character transcends dimensions or in the example linked with the Darkness Beyond Time, it is directly stated to be a plane beyond dimensions.
    • Do note for example a universe or dimension viewed as bizarre isn't directly qualifiable for dimensionless existence. A universe being viewed as bizarre with a different rule system would not give dimensionless existence, same if the dimension is merely just a differently structured dimension then usual. This also goes for the term "Transcends dimensions" it can mean other things then what qualifies for dimensionless existence. Context matters.
  • Dimensionless Existence is not given through existing in a higher plane beyond a dimensionless real. Dimensionless existence has nothing to do with the Tiering System which is based off levels of power, thus one can be beyond a dimensionless plane and still exist in a 3-D reality.
    • To add on to this, one cannot get Dimensionless Existence for existing in a higher plane beyond space and time as this doesn't prove they're dimensionless but can merely enter a realm of this nature, in other cases it can be a higher temporal realm, an atemporal/aspatial realm, or merely just a higher hierarchy that can still be a standard 3-D reality.
  • Dimensionless Existence can be given through being a pure void, existing outside or before the multiverse or transcending concepts. Transcending all concepts could potentially grant dimensionless existence depending on the circumstance. However, do not use a character transcending multiple concepts as a reason for why they would qualify for all.
    • Additionally being a plane or space outside of universes and space-time alone would not qualify.
  • Dimensionless Existence is not given through a character destroying all dimensions and still existing or alternatively a character getting hit by this attack and still existing. Both of these are merely a Resistance to Dimension Manipulation.
  • Dimensionless Existence is not given through existing beyond a dimensional being. This does not prove one is dimensionless, just that they're beyond an N-dimension. Such as a 4D being is dimensionally beyond a 3D being.
  • Dimensionless Existence is not given through being 1-A as stated prior it has nothing to do with the tiering system and one can be 1-A while still being 3-D.