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==Introduction==
==Before Making a Profile==
For those wanting to make a profile, welcome. We allow all users to make a profile for a character of their verse, however, with this allowance, there are rules in place to make sure that the profiles quality and structure is consistent with the rest of the profiles on our wiki. Please follow all of these rules.
For those wanting to make a profile, welcome. Please be sure to check the [[User_blog:GiverOfThePeace/Official_Verse_Claims_Blog|profile and verse claiming blog]] to see what verses have already been claimed and who you have to discuss with on the verses you may want to work on. Along with this, it should normally be asked by one of the moderators if a verse you're working on has been "shadow claimed"<ref>Shadow Claimed is a term referencing how sometimes people will forget to claim a verse but have unwrittengly claimed it</ref>. If the verse head gives you permission or if you're giving permission, it must be noted that there are rules in place to make sure that the profiles quality and structure is consistent with the rest of the profiles on our wiki. Please follow all of these rules. Do note if profiles don't meet the quality standards they will be deleted.


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
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The easier option is to simply use the reference command fandom gives. To do this, simply do the following:
The easier option is to simply use the reference command fandom gives. To do this, simply do the following:
Claim the feat that happened here. <nowiki> <ref>The show, episode number, and name of the episode here</ref>  
Claim the feat that happened here. <nowiki> <ref>The show, episode number, and name of the episode here</ref> </nowiki>


Then above '''Gallery''' or '''Other''' put <references/> </nowiki>. [[Pucca (Reboot)|Here is an example of a profile that uses references]].
For movies, you would do the same thing but instead you'd first link a transcript if you can, then put <nowiki> <ref>The movie, potentially a quote to a specific scene being noted here</ref></nowiki>.
 
Then above '''Gallery''' or '''Other''' put <nowiki> <references/> </nowiki>. [[Zim|Here is an example of a profile that uses references]].


The other option is to download the video and upload the specific clip of the feat on sites such as [https://streamable.com/ streamable]. This is less advised as streamable will at times delete your videos if they don’t see enough views due to the backlog of the millions of other videos on it’s site. You could alternatively also upload it to sites such as [https://gfycat.com/ gfycat].
The other option is to download the video and upload the specific clip of the feat on sites such as [https://streamable.com/ streamable]. This is less advised as streamable will at times delete your videos if they don’t see enough views due to the backlog of the millions of other videos on it’s site. You could alternatively also upload it to sites such as [https://gfycat.com/ gfycat].


===Scans regarding novels===
===Scans regarding novels===
If you cannot get the specific links for scenes from novels it is advised to either put the quotes from the book in the '''Explanations''' section of the profile with the name of the book, along with the chapter and page this quote comes from, or post the section onto sites like [https://pastebin.com/ pastebin]. Again, it should note the name of the book and the chapter & page the quote comes from.
If you cannot get the specific links for scenes from novels it is advised to either put the quotes from the book in the '''Explanations''' section of the profile with the name of the book, along with the chapter and page this quote comes from, or post the section onto sites like [https://pastebin.com/ pastebin]. Again, it should note the name of the book and the chapter & page the quote comes from. Another thing you can do is once again, using references. For references in novels, one would do the following:
<nowiki> <ref>The novels name, the chapter, the page (if possible), the specific quote from the excerpt</ref></nowiki>.
 
The same idea works for interview scans too, while linking the interview alone is fine, it is much more preferable to add a reference to quote the specific part of the link you're showing.


===Conclusion===
===Conclusion===
Overall scans are a requirement to profiles, one’s that lack them are advised to have them as soon as possible.
Overall scans are a requirement to profiles, one’s that lack them are advised to have them as soon as possible or else the profile will be deleted.
 
===Plagiarized Profiles===
These are notable profiles that are exact copy-pastes of other wikis such as making a page for [[w:c:vsbattles:Saitama|Saitama that looks exactly like his vsbattles]] wiki pages. This is completely disallowed and a warning will be issued to immediately change the profile to be original, if it's not done within a small timeframe, the profile will be deleted and the user will receive a strike. Things that are not normally considered plagiarism is taken experts from official fan wikis for characters histories, notable attacks, or getting official in-game stat sheets from wikis, such as the [[w:c:megamitensei:Megami Tensei Wiki|Megami Tensei Wiki]]. Another way the profile is fine is if it's a profile being ported over from another wiki that the user originally made or greatly edited and it fits DJW's layout. Do note exact copy pastes of entire profiles are disallowed.


==Scaling==
==Scaling==
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==Possibly/Likely/At Least/Far Higher==
==Possibly/Likely/At Least/Far Higher==
As the [[Attack Potency]] page notes:
As the [[Attack Potency]] page notes:
"+" symbol
'''"+" symbol'''
Currently misused to an extraordinary degree on the wiki, the "+" symbol should only be used when the Attack Potency has been calculated to be greater than the average (arithmetic mean) of the high end energy level and low end energy level of a particular tier.
Currently misused to an extraordinary degree on the wiki, the "+" symbol should only be used when the Attack Potency has been calculated to be greater than the average (arithmetic mean) of the high end energy level and low end energy level of a particular tier.


Example: Average of Large Building level is: [2 Tons (low end) + 11 tons (high end)]/2 = 6.5 Tons (the arithmetic mean). All energy levels from 2 Tons to 6.5 Tons should be listed as Large Building level, whereas all energy levels from 6.5 Tons to 11 Tons should be listed as Large Building level+.
Example: Average of Large Building level is: [2 Tons (low end) + 11 tons (high end)]/2 = 6.5 Tons (the arithmetic mean). All energy levels from 2 Tons to 6.5 Tons should be listed as Large Building level, whereas all energy levels from 6.5 Tons to 11 Tons should be listed as Large Building level+.


High
'''High'''
Currently used to denote high end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "High" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.
Currently used to denote high end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "High" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.


Example: If a character is in the upper range of a tier such as Solar System level, said character will be listed as "Solar System level+", not "High Solar System level".
Example: If a character is in the upper range of a tier such as Solar System level, said character will be listed as '''"Solar System level+"''', not '''"High Solar System level"'''.


Low
'''Low'''
Currently used to denote low end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "Low" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.
Currently used to denote low end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "Low" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.


Example: There should be no usage of "Low 7-A", because it does not correspond with the revised Attack Potency chart.
Example: There should be no usage of "Low 7-A", because it does not correspond with the revised Attack Potency chart.


At least
'''At least'''
Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.


At most
'''At most'''
Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.
Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.


Likely
'''Likely'''
Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should be favourable.
Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should be favourable.


Possibly
'''Possibly'''
Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should also be indeterminate.
Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should also be indeterminate.


==Composite profile rules==
==Composite profile rules==
Do not use any fanfiction or fan made feats. Use versions of the character that are officially licensed and have the creators approval.
Do not use any fanfiction or fan made feats. Use versions of the character that are officially licensed and have the creators approval.  


Example: DIC Link feats could be used as part of a composite Link profile as it’s an officially licensed form of media for Zelda, just not a canon form.
Example: DIC Link feats could be used as part of a composite Link profile as it’s an officially licensed form of media for Zelda, just not a canon form.
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'''Level 3: Mature/R''' - Verses with shown or heavily descriptive sexual conduct, extremely gory deaths, massive swearing, etcetera. Images depicted may contain full on sexual scenes, possibly uncomfortable material, organs and such being shown, or heads exploding, and swearing that goes even into the highest territories. Level 3’s get mature content without argument.  
'''Level 3: Mature/R''' - Verses with shown or heavily descriptive sexual conduct, extremely gory deaths, massive swearing, etcetera. Images depicted may contain full on sexual scenes, possibly uncomfortable material, organs and such being shown, or heads exploding, and swearing that goes even into the highest territories. Level 3’s get mature content without argument.  


Examples: [[Miscreant's Room|Misao]], [[Millarworld|Kingsman]], [[Press the B Button, Stupid!]]
Examples: [[Miscreant's Room|Misao]], [[Millarworld|Kingsman]], [[Press the B Button, Stupid!]], [[Megami Tensei]]


==Clearing some misconceptions==
==Clearing some misconceptions==
*Being any times stronger than a '''2-C''' or your previous '''2-C''' form does '''not''' grant you '''Low 2-B'''. Being able to destroy more then one universal space-time continuums is not the same as having an increase in your power by a certain amount of times. It is impossible to quantify the numerical gap between each one of the subtiers in Tier 2 due to the distance between any given number of universes is currently unknowable. This also goes for being "infinitely" stronger then '''2-C''' too, that does not grant you '''High 2-B'''.
*Being any times stronger than a '''2-C''' or your previous '''2-C''' form does '''not''' grant you '''Low 2-B'''. Being able to destroy more then one universal space-time continuums is not the same as having an increase in your power by a certain amount of times. It is impossible to quantify the numerical gap between each one of the subtiers in Tier 2 due to the distance between any given number of universes is currently unknowable. This also goes for being "infinitely" stronger then '''2-C''' too, that does not grant you '''High 2-B'''.
*According to the first version of the definition of the Hausdorff dimensions, one easily sees that the dimension of the unification of countably infinite n-dimensional objects is also a n-dimensional object. Or in other words, stacking countably infinite objects together never reaches a higher-dimension. The same can be said for attempting to reach a higher hierarchy.
*According to the first version of the definition of the Hausdorff dimensions, one easily sees that the dimension of the unification of countably infinite n-dimensional objects is also a n-dimensional object. Or in other words, stacking countably infinite objects together never reaches a higher-dimension. The same can be said for attempting to reach a higher hierarchy.
*Performing a higher hierarchal feat does not automatically make your dimensionality higher. You can also be a higher dimension yet have a lower tier as the tiering system is not based off dimensional tiering. Dimensionality does not always automatically scale to tier or AP without feats.
*Performing a higher hierarchal feat does not automatically make your dimensionality higher. You can also be a higher dimension yet have a lower tier as the tiering system is not based off dimensional tiering. Dimensionality does not always automatically scale to tier or AP without feats. See the [[Dimensional Tiering Explanation]] page for more information, along with the [[Dimensionality]] page.


[[Category:Important]]
[[Category:Important]]
{{Discussions}}
{{Discussions}}

Revision as of 20:35, 4 June 2022

Before Making a Profile

For those wanting to make a profile, welcome. Please be sure to check the profile and verse claiming blog to see what verses have already been claimed and who you have to discuss with on the verses you may want to work on. Along with this, it should normally be asked by one of the moderators if a verse you're working on has been "shadow claimed"[1]. If the verse head gives you permission or if you're giving permission, it must be noted that there are rules in place to make sure that the profiles quality and structure is consistent with the rest of the profiles on our wiki. Please follow all of these rules. Do note if profiles don't meet the quality standards they will be deleted.

The Rules

Scans

A scan is an image formed by scanning something, this is normally related to objects such as a comic book scene or a manga scene. For us, scans specifically are evidence to a claim made. For example, if you note in Dragon Ball that Piccolo destroyed the moon, you would link the scene from the manga where he did this. The link to the scene is the scan. When stating someone’s Attack Potency, Speed, Durability, etc. you should always link a scan to officially verify your statement. It is also more preferable if you proceed to explain in-depth a scene or ability to make a user who has never seen the verse you’re making a profile for have context and understanding.

Sites One Should Use for Scans

A common mistake people do is while reading a manga or comic grabbing a scan from the link of the manga site itself or opening the specific manga panel as a new image and linking that. Examples:

The reason for this is because manga sites like these are illegal and will eventually get shut down, along with this means the loss of the scans on the profile as they’ll just link to broken links. The other reason is, fandom does not allow links to illegal manga sites, so when attempting to edit a profile, the edit will be stopped due to fandom seeing manga links. There is a solution however.

Instead of linking to manga sites, one should take all the associated images (with context behind them and the chapter they come from so one can read themself to find the context), and put them on sites such as imgur. One can also upload all the associated images onto Special:NewFiles.

What if the series in question is impossible to get a link for?

Series like these tend to exist, such as series on Netflix, for this you can do one of two options.

The easier option is to simply use the reference command fandom gives. To do this, simply do the following: Claim the feat that happened here. <ref>The show, episode number, and name of the episode here</ref>

For movies, you would do the same thing but instead you'd first link a transcript if you can, then put <ref>The movie, potentially a quote to a specific scene being noted here</ref>.

Then above Gallery or Other put <references/> . Here is an example of a profile that uses references.

The other option is to download the video and upload the specific clip of the feat on sites such as streamable. This is less advised as streamable will at times delete your videos if they don’t see enough views due to the backlog of the millions of other videos on it’s site. You could alternatively also upload it to sites such as gfycat.

Scans regarding novels

If you cannot get the specific links for scenes from novels it is advised to either put the quotes from the book in the Explanations section of the profile with the name of the book, along with the chapter and page this quote comes from, or post the section onto sites like pastebin. Again, it should note the name of the book and the chapter & page the quote comes from. Another thing you can do is once again, using references. For references in novels, one would do the following: <ref>The novels name, the chapter, the page (if possible), the specific quote from the excerpt</ref>.

The same idea works for interview scans too, while linking the interview alone is fine, it is much more preferable to add a reference to quote the specific part of the link you're showing.

Conclusion

Overall scans are a requirement to profiles, one’s that lack them are advised to have them as soon as possible or else the profile will be deleted.

Plagiarized Profiles

These are notable profiles that are exact copy-pastes of other wikis such as making a page for Saitama that looks exactly like his vsbattles wiki pages. This is completely disallowed and a warning will be issued to immediately change the profile to be original, if it's not done within a small timeframe, the profile will be deleted and the user will receive a strike. Things that are not normally considered plagiarism is taken experts from official fan wikis for characters histories, notable attacks, or getting official in-game stat sheets from wikis, such as the Megami Tensei Wiki. Another way the profile is fine is if it's a profile being ported over from another wiki that the user originally made or greatly edited and it fits DJW's layout. Do note exact copy pastes of entire profiles are disallowed.

Scaling

Scaling, alternatively known as powerscaling. Powerscaling is fine to use in conjunction with feats as long as it meets a fine consistency and doesn't fall under the following, PIS, Outlier, or Inconsistency. There should also be no circular scaling. Circular scaling is the act of scaling a character to another for scaling to the former character with no feats to justify it. The person's tiering should be consistent with the character's feats. No outliers count.

Possibly/Likely/At Least/Far Higher

As the Attack Potency page notes: "+" symbol Currently misused to an extraordinary degree on the wiki, the "+" symbol should only be used when the Attack Potency has been calculated to be greater than the average (arithmetic mean) of the high end energy level and low end energy level of a particular tier.

Example: Average of Large Building level is: [2 Tons (low end) + 11 tons (high end)]/2 = 6.5 Tons (the arithmetic mean). All energy levels from 2 Tons to 6.5 Tons should be listed as Large Building level, whereas all energy levels from 6.5 Tons to 11 Tons should be listed as Large Building level+.

High Currently used to denote high end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "High" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.

Example: If a character is in the upper range of a tier such as Solar System level, said character will be listed as "Solar System level+", not "High Solar System level".

Low Currently used to denote low end of a particular tier, it will here-on no longer be utilized in that manner. "Low" will be utilized only if the instance matches with the revised Attack Potency chart.

Example: There should be no usage of "Low 7-A", because it does not correspond with the revised Attack Potency chart.

At least Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

At most Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

Likely Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should be favourable.

Possibly Should be used to list a hypothetical statistic for a character, but inconclusive due to lack of feats or viable power-scaling. Probability of said hypothetical statistic should also be indeterminate.

Composite profile rules

Do not use any fanfiction or fan made feats. Use versions of the character that are officially licensed and have the creators approval.

Example: DIC Link feats could be used as part of a composite Link profile as it’s an officially licensed form of media for Zelda, just not a canon form.

Mature Content Rating Scale

The Mature Content Rating Scale is used to define what material falls under the mature content template. As this website is a place for people of all ages, user discretion is advised when viewing verses with these ratings attached. It should also be noted NSFW content/images is not allowed to be featured as per Fandom's terms of service, so when making a profile do not insert any of the NSFW material.

The following is the rating scale:

Level 1: Everyone 10+ to Teen/PG to PG-13 - Verses with excessive fan service, hints to drugs/alcohol use, dark imagery, some swearing, and allusions to murder & other mature concepts. While not overtly mature, verses may depict scenes, show images, or show concepts not suitable for a younger audience. Being at a level 1 normally does not require a mature content rating though it could be discussed if the verse that falls under this really needs one.

Examples: A Hat in Time, Mother 3, Some Marvel and DC storylines

Level 2: Teen to possibly Mature/PG-13 to possibly R - Verses with mild sexual content, graphic violence, excessive swearing, underage drug usage/alcohol usage, etcetera. Images depicted may include completely topless scenes with females, death with some blood and gore, excessive swearing that goes beyond using the word “damn”. Level 2’s normally have the mature content rating but they could possibly not get one depending on how truly graphic the material is.

Examples: Grenadier, Scott Pilgrim, Strange Men

Level 3: Mature/R - Verses with shown or heavily descriptive sexual conduct, extremely gory deaths, massive swearing, etcetera. Images depicted may contain full on sexual scenes, possibly uncomfortable material, organs and such being shown, or heads exploding, and swearing that goes even into the highest territories. Level 3’s get mature content without argument.

Examples: Misao, Kingsman, Press the B Button, Stupid!, Megami Tensei

Clearing some misconceptions

  • Being any times stronger than a 2-C or your previous 2-C form does not grant you Low 2-B. Being able to destroy more then one universal space-time continuums is not the same as having an increase in your power by a certain amount of times. It is impossible to quantify the numerical gap between each one of the subtiers in Tier 2 due to the distance between any given number of universes is currently unknowable. This also goes for being "infinitely" stronger then 2-C too, that does not grant you High 2-B.
  • According to the first version of the definition of the Hausdorff dimensions, one easily sees that the dimension of the unification of countably infinite n-dimensional objects is also a n-dimensional object. Or in other words, stacking countably infinite objects together never reaches a higher-dimension. The same can be said for attempting to reach a higher hierarchy.
  • Performing a higher hierarchal feat does not automatically make your dimensionality higher. You can also be a higher dimension yet have a lower tier as the tiering system is not based off dimensional tiering. Dimensionality does not always automatically scale to tier or AP without feats. See the Dimensional Tiering Explanation page for more information, along with the Dimensionality page.

Discussions (Link For Mobile Users):

Discussion threads involving Codex Profile Rules
  1. Shadow Claimed is a term referencing how sometimes people will forget to claim a verse but have unwrittengly claimed it