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| <tabber> |-|Dirk=[[File:Dirk_pesterquest.png|thumb|400px]] {{Quote|And statements like that are also why [[Jane Crocker|you're]] our leader. But only in name and in spirit. Less so, functionally. If it puts your mind at ease, I'll be the one pulling the strings here.|Dirk Strider to Jane Crocker}} |-|God-Tier=[[File:8cc45c139a060eeed284e2a48d415dec.png|thumb|268px]] {{Quote|<i>DIRK: Ask me anything. Go ahead. I'll give you a straight answer. | | <tabber> |-|John Egbert=[[File:John egbert pesterquest.png|thumb|400px]] |-|Heir of Breath=[[File:John EgbertGodTier.png|thumb|400px]] </tabber> {{Quote|<i>jeez. |
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| DIRK: Dave. That's the best fucking question, anybody ever asked.|Dirk and Dave before they battle [[Spades Slick]] and [[Jack Noir (Alpha)|Lord Jack]] alongside [[Terezi Pyrope]]</i>}}|-|Ultimate Self=[[File:Ultimate_dirk_pesterquest.png|thumb|500px]] {{Quote|Suprise bitch.|Ultimate Dirk}} </tabber>
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| ==Background== | | ==Background== |
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| Dirk Strider is a protagonist from MS Paint Adventures' Homestuck, and is the post-scratch "[[Bro Strider|Bro]]" of [[Dave Strider]]. He is a known fanatic of puppets, and he and Dave commonly make ironic jokes to one another. He eventually obtains God Tier within the system.
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| '''[[DebatesJungle Tiering System|Tier]]:''' '''9-A''' | '''High 2-B''' | At least '''Low 1-C''', possibly '''High 1-B''' | | '''[[DebatesJungle Tiering System|Tier]]:''' '''9-A''' | '''High 2-B''' | At least '''High 2-B''' physically. '''Unknown''' with the Retcon Powers, at least '''Low 1-C''', possibly '''High 1-B''' through creating "The Blackout" |
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| '''Name''': Dirk Strider, Prince of Heart | | '''Name''': John Egbert, ghostlyTrickster (former screen name), ectoBiologist (current screen name), [[Roxy Lolande|jake stuffed in a blue windsock, johnny windsock, j sock]], blue boy, Heir of Breath |
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| '''Age''': Unknown | | '''Age''': 13 at the beginning of Homestuck, 18 at the end of Homestuck, 23 years in the Meat Timeline (deceased), 36 years currently |
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| | '''Classification''': Sburb Player, Human | God-Tier |
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| '''[[Dimensionality]]:''' '''3-D''' | '''3-D''' | '''7-D''', possibly '''Infinite''' | | '''[[Speed|Travel Speed]]:''' |
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| '''[[Speed|Travel Speed]]:''' '''Supersonic+''' (Comparable to other characters on his level, was making afterimages at high speeds and cut bullets in half) | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' (Views the concept of distance, space, time, and direction as illusionary) | | '''[[Speed|Combat Speed]]:''' |
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| '''[[Lifting Strength]]:''' '''Unknown''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' | | '''[[Striking Strength]]:''' |
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| '''[[Durability]]:''' '''Multi-City Block level''' | '''high Multiversal''' | At least '''Low Complex Multiversal+''', possibly '''High Transverse level'''
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| '''[[Hax|Powers and Abilities]]:''' [[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 1) [[Flight]] with Rocket Board, [[Afterimage Creation]], | All previous powers to a greater extent, [[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 2: Prince of Heart), [[Sealing]] | All previous powers to their greatest extent, [[Information Analysis]] ([https://www.homestuck2.com/story/19 Shown here]), [[Omnipresence]] (Type 1. Embodies all of his alternative selves, and what they could be and what they are), [[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 3) | | '''[[Hax|Powers and Abilities]]:''' |
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| <tabber> |-|Caliborn=[[File:1610428874919.png|thumb|400px]] {{Quote|<i>I HAVE PORED OVER EVERY NAUSEATING VERSE. IT HAS BEEN A TRUE EXERCISE IN AGONY. FEW COULD POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND MY SUFFERING.
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| '''WHO IS STRONGER THAN ME.'''</i>|Caliborn}} |-|God-Tier=[[File:Caliborn_god_tier_(1).gif|right|400px]] {{Quote|<i>I WILL DUEL AND CRUSH MY SLITHERING SEXUAL SNAKE BOSS, AND FINISH WHAT I STARTED WHEN I STEPPED MY METAL FOOT INTO THIS CHILDREN'S FARCE. I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO, AND WHEN THAT IS SAID AND DONE, AND YOU SEE ME AT THE PEAK OF A MOUNTAIN OF TROPHIES, RESTING ON MY THRONE OF PRIZES, I WANT TO GET TO TELL YOU THAT I DID WHAT I WANTED TO DO. SO IF YOU REMEMBER JUST ONE THING I SAY, OF SO MANY GREAT THINGS SAID BY ME, THEN PLEASE REMEMBER THIS.
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| '''I WANTED TO PLAY A GAME.'''</i>|}} |-|Lord English=[[File:Lord_English_and_Ms_PaEint.gif|right|400px]]{{Quote|<i>GIRL.
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| '''Caliborn''' is the true antagonist of Homestuck. He is one of the two Cherub Sburb players, alongside of his sister, [[Calliope]]. With burning hatred for his sister, he hired [[Lord Jack|an alternate version of Jack Noir]] to kill her, prevailing in the battle of the two, then begins his quest of LOCAM (Land of Colors and Mayhem) to begin his quest for godhood.
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| By swiftly taking his own life on his quest bed, he ascends to God-Tier shortly afterwards: Becoming the Lord of Time. From thereon, he begins to mess with the narrative until confronted by [[John Egbert]]. After being defeated by John, Caliborn continues his quest to Godhood, defeating Yaldaboath, and gaining his treasure. By destroying the grandfather clock and absorbing the Juju's power, he becomes an ascended God-Tier, beginning his "masterpiece", where he summons the beta and alpha kids.
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Should he be defeated, [https://imgur.com/a/9nziLiI his defeat shall be "untrue" and radioactively discredited]. [https://imgur.com/a/YQTmjxD When John chose not to fight Lord English in the Candy Timeline, it became "non-canon" and the only reason why it is connected to the narrative is because Calliope has given it an "artificial supply of gravity" in it lacks a natural one]. Should you go against Lord English's control of canon, [https://imgur.com/a/9xNMpRy you are fated to die, your timeline becomes "doomed", your own concept will erase itself and Paradox Space will collapse on you], [https://imgur.com/a/1MtpsbC and what is true and canon must happen, what is not true and not canon can't]), [[Resistance]] to [[Gravity Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/5261 Unaffected by the gravitational attraction of his Kernelsprite]) |-|God-Tier=All previous powers to a greater extent, [[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 2; Lord of Time), enhanced [[Causality Manipulation]], [[Fate Manipulation]], [[Probability Manipulation]], and [[Plot Manipulation]] (Type 4; Now has more control over the outcomes of fate and causality, as well as superior control over the narrative. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6247 Possesses the Gift of Gab], [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6248 allowing him to control the narrative at will]), enhanced [[Accelerated Development]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6246 Can climb the echheladder by just standing around]), [[Life Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6504 Can create life]), can "Unlock any lock" [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6248 with the Skeleton Key Badge], [[Power Nullification]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6243 Can prevent the reader from going to the next page]) |-|Post-Collide=All previous powers to a greater extent, [[Invulnerability]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7414 Stated to be invulnerable]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7437 Was not harmed by Jake's Field of Hope despite being knocked down by it]), [[Soul Manipulation]] and [[Sealing]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7423 Trapped the souls of the Beta Kids into the Juju]), [[BFR]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7425 Banished the Juju into the Furthest Ring]), [[Energy Projection]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7425 Stated he could make a "Rainbow Seizure Field" that could contest or overpower Jake's Field of Hope]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7416 Can create clockwork lasers]), [[Resistance Negation]] and [[Power Modification]] ([https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/9/97/HWEITKt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190603102340 Overwrote the Beta Kid's powers on a metatextual level]), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] ([https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/1/1b/JTIEKGTA.png/revision/latest?cb=20190604220038 destroy the very concept of light and it's source]), [[Resistance]] to [[Soul Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7443 Even when being held down, Dirk could not destroy his soul]) and [[Energy Projection]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7437 Jake's Field of Hope could not harm him]) |-|Lord English=All previous powers to a massively greater extent, [[Irreversible Damage]] and [[Existence Erasure]] (Type 4; [https://imgur.com/a/vTyLhj7 His existence erasure works as a poison that is antithetical to the narrative and completely erased John Egbert without any hopes of recovery, as it was unable to heal from]. [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/e/e9/HFJE.png/revision/latest?cb=20190604215826 His poison also is able to block healing on a metaphysical level]. [https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11127/111279017/5461077-text.png Doing this, Lord English can negate Immortality]), [[Reality Warping]], [[Void Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7443 His existence includes] Equius Zahhak, the Heir of Void. John Egbert, the Heir of Breath, has wind powers, so Equius most logically has void powers), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/prologue/2https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/prologue/2 Can conceptually unravel existence]), [[Plot Manipulation]] (Types 3 and 4; Granted Gamzee plot Armour. [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:YuriAkuto/Homestuck_books%27_collection_of_Words_of_God#Book_4 As the "Invisible/Unseen Riddler", he passively "robs its targets of a meaningful or dignified existence," and is the closest thing to "Absolute God of Paradox Space" and is "best interpreted as the forces of mischief and authorial cruelty or callousness toward the subjects within this fiction, which are laced into the entire narrative and relate closely to the quality of 'authorial scorn'"]. Has a plot-shield that negates attempts to defeat him), [[Genius Intelligence]], [[Death Manipulation]] and [[Mind Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4349 The Embodiment of Death in Troll Mythology is based off of him, if not him outright]. Said embodiment of Death has a Hypnotic Glare. Lil' Cal is his vessel, who Caliborn used to mind control Jack Noir), [[Black Hole Creation]] (Lord Jack [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&feature=youtu.be&t=15m49s can create a black hole]), [[Reality Separation]] and [[Acausality]] (Type 5; Is stated to be detached from the narrative), [[Rage Power]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19Up0dLzNw Gamzee becomes more powerful when angry]), [[Dream Manipulation]] and [[Fear Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7445 Using Gamzee's powers, he inserted himself into Dave's dreams and influenced reality from them. By using these powers, he willed himself into existence within the dreams of people across as many universes as possible, masterminding the surfacing of his true power from these manifestations, despite having his original soul cast into the void.] Gamzee can [https://wheals.github.io/formspring/formspring.html#question224762224403577955 subconsciously inflict nightmares] and [https://wheals.github.io/formspring/formspring.html#question224748966091191082 can insert himself into dreams to terrorize them]) [[Immortality]] (Types 1, 2, 3, and 8; Has his soul cast in the void, where from their he can will himself into existence from the nightmares of people's dreams), [[Power Bestowal]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4873 Stated to boost the Condesce's power]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7526 Gave some of his power to Lord Jack.]), [[Curse Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4069 Cursed the Handmaid with Immortality]), [[Non-Corporeal]], [[Forcefield Creation]] (Has all the powers of the first guardians, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/scratch/room70.gif who can do this.]), [[Pocket Reality Manipulation]], [[Technological Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/2091 Likely created the completely unhackable ~ATH program which is linked to his own existence.] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSPGQqaEt3g&feature=youtu.be&t=2h1m42s Doc Scratch is implied to be the creator of Scratchware, which is protected even from technologically advanced alien surveillance.] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5037 Lil' Hal (one of ARquiusprite's components) was able to take control of other computers]), [[Fire Manipulation]] (His components can [https://www.homestuck.com/story/3996 produce] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5822 fire]), [[Size Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/980 First Guardians can change size]), [[Sleep Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/3320 Doc Scratch can put people to sleep]), [[Spatial Manipulation|Space]]-[[Time Manipulation]], [[Empathic Manipulation]] (Doc Scratch can [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/8/85/Empathic_manip.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224112731&path-prefix=fr induce] [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/9/90/Induce_frienship_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224112849&path-prefix=fr friendship]), [[Memory Manipulation]] (Doc Scratch [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/c/c4/Memorymanip.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224114633&path-prefix=fr can manipulate or wipe memories]), [[Summoning]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&feature=youtu.be&t=3m52s Arquiusprite can summon robotic horses], and Lord English [https://www.homestuck.com/story/8104 can seemingly summon multicolored horses]), [[Acausality]] [[Power Nullification|Negation]] (Type 5, as he was able to physically contest with and eventually erase John Egbert, [https://imgur.com/a/xn0LPg3 who has multiple times stated to] [https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/meat/4 completely transcend] [https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/meat/11 the confines of canon]), [[Possession]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7526 Possesses Lord Jack]), [[Teleportation]] and [[BFR]] (Type 1; [https://www.homestuck.com/story/3871 Doc Scratch can do this]), [[Nonexistent Physiology]] (Type 2; Equius has void powers akin to how John as wind powers. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5347 John can turn into sheer wind, meaning Equius could turn into sheer void.] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2091 Summoned when] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIau2KHj9-I&t the universe is completely destroyed.] His soul was cast into the void), [[Danmaku]] (As he showcased it [https://youtu.be/Y5wYN6rB_Rg?t=673 here]), [[Resistance]] to [[Radiation Manipulation]], [[Fear Manipulation]] and [[Dream Manipulation]] (Gamzee, like English, has blood flowing through his veins that inflicts nightmares, thus meaning they resist it), [[Spatial Manipulation|Space]]-[[Time Manipulation]], [[Time Stop]], and [[Plot Manipulation]] (Type 4: Doc Scratch is immune to be the other guy. Detached from the narrative), [[Omnipresence]] (Type 2. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5673 Stated that all outcomes are part of his being] and [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797656920454463498/799386724014358558/image0.jpg Homestuck Book 6 states he has an all encompassing presence]) </tabber>
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| '''[[Standard Equipment]]:''' Cane that can morph into a gun, Juju Breaker | Golden Cane that can morph into a gun | All previous, Juju, Lil'Cal, Gamzee Makara | Green Sun Cane that can morph into an AK-47
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| '''[[Intelligence]]:''' Extremely cunning and clever with an understanding of space-time, but stuck in puberty, and is Immature | Same as before | Same as before, possibly '''Cosmic''' (Potentially has control of most of his powers at this point | '''Cosmic''' (Doc Scratch, who is part of him, consistently stated to be omniscient or [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2253 near-omniscient]. Dirkbot, also part of him, [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5641 is "cyber-omniscient"])
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| '''Standard Tactics''': Caliborn attacks with his Juju, which negates the magical effects of an artifact in the timeline, or uses his rifle | As before | He begins by opening the Juju, sealing the souls of up to 4 targets into a Juju, then banishing it into somewhere into the furthest ring. Thereon, he usually uses energy projection | Lord English makes consistent use of his double death (Existence Erasure, Irreversible Damage, and Immortality/Regeneration Negation) ability (See note below)
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| '''Weaknesses:''' Caliborn is extremely immature and permanently stuck in puberty, and is also quick to being completely unreasonable | Same as before, Resurrection will not work if his death is deemed "Heroic" or "Just" | Same as his base (No longer bound the the Heroic or Just death system), very arrogant an underestimative of his opponents due to his newfound powers | With potent enough space-time manipulation (mainly, "glitches/paradoxes in space time") is able to allow you to harm him and ignore his plot shield. The Destruction of the Green Sun severely weakens Lord English and removes the plot shield completely. Is not in a complete state of nonexistence, only being able to turn completely nonexistent on thought.
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| '''Keys:''' '''Base''' | '''God-Tier''' | '''Post-Collide''' | '''Lord English'''
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| '''Note''': Due to the confliction between Homestuck's metafictional nature and [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/c/c0/Pixel_picture.png/revision/latest?cb=20200403195110&path-prefix=fr some comparisons to objects that are not dimesionally above each other], we cannot determine whether or not the infinite heirarchy of creators are actually a legitimate infinite-dimensional structure, thus we go with "possibly '''High 1-B'''"
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| '''Note 2''': There is some contention revolving around Lord English's starting move; In one scene, he opens up by punching a bunch of trolls, which mistakes many people thinking he doesn't open up with powers. However, this has several holes:
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| *That was not the very beginning of the fight: Prior to this, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&t=129s Lord English uses double death] on Karkat, who is only 9-A with little hax.
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| *This is contradicted in [S] Caliborn: Enter, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluSImcNwac where Lord English destroys an entire dream bubble filled with the ghost of dead players] (Skip to 2:36)
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| *The reason why Lord English resorted to punching was likely due to PIS; Lord English could've easily destroyed the dream bubble along with the Ghost Army with it, but instead resorting to physicals due to how it took place in [S] Collide, Homestuck's final battle, meaning it must be cinematic, and Lord English effortlessly destroying them all would be in character, but very anti-climatic for a final battle, thus the animators made him mix it up with physical attacks and double death rather than nuking the entire dream bubble with double death
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| ==Battle Records==
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| '''Notable Victories:'''
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| [https://debatesjungle.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000005338/ Enerjak (Archie Comics)] - [[Enerjak (Archie Comics)|Enerjak's profile]] (Both were at 2-A)
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| [https://debatesjungle.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000018236 Ness] [[Mother|(Mother 2)]] - [[Ness|Ness's profile]] (Both were at 9-A and speed was equalized)
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