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<tabber> |-|MSPAR=[[File:MSPAReader.png|thumb|400px]] {{Quote|You've found your river, and you're going to see where it leads.}} |-|First Gaurdian=[[File:FirstGuardianmsparRender.png|thumb|400px]] {{Quote|No. '''No.''' It doesn't disappear. I don't let it. I am bigger than this story, but I am also inside the story. So I gather it up and I keep it close to me, and as soon as I remove it from causation, it's like it never happened. I take the timeline and I lock it away. That's what it is. It is a Locked Timeline, and I am its guardian. '''Its first guardian.'''}} </tabber>
{{Mature}}
<tabber> |-|Caliborn=[[File:1610428874919.png|thumb|400px]] {{Quote|<i>I HAVE PORED OVER EVERY NAUSEATING VERSE. IT HAS BEEN A TRUE EXERCISE IN AGONY. FEW COULD POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND MY SUFFERING.
 
BUT THAT'S OK.
 
BECAUSE I'M NOT THE IDIOT KID I USED TO BE. NOW I KNOW. THAT WHAT IT TAKES FOR ME TO LEARN AND GROW STRONGER.
 
IS EXCRUCIATING EFFORT.
 
SO I HAVE A CHOICE. WHICH IS TO EITHER BE WEAK.
 
WHEN WEAKNESS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
 
'''OR TO SUFFER. FOREVER. UNTIL NO ONE ELSE EXISTS.'''
 
'''WHO IS STRONGER THAN ME.'''</i>|Caliborn}} |-|God-Tier=[[File:Caliborn_god_tier_(1).gif|right|400px]] {{Quote|<i>I WILL DUEL AND CRUSH MY SLITHERING SEXUAL SNAKE BOSS, AND FINISH WHAT I STARTED WHEN I STEPPED MY METAL FOOT INTO THIS CHILDREN'S FARCE. I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO, AND WHEN THAT IS SAID AND DONE, AND YOU SEE ME AT THE PEAK OF A MOUNTAIN OF TROPHIES, RESTING ON MY THRONE OF PRIZES, I WANT TO GET TO TELL YOU THAT I DID WHAT I WANTED TO DO. SO IF YOU REMEMBER JUST ONE THING I SAY, OF SO MANY GREAT THINGS SAID BY ME, THEN PLEASE REMEMBER THIS.
 
'''I WANTED TO PLAY A GAME.'''</i>|}} |-|Lord English=[[File:Lord_English_and_Ms_PaEint.gif|right|400px]]{{Quote|<i>GIRL.  
 
YOU THERE. GIRL.
 
GIRL, QUIT ALL THIS SCURRYING AROUND.
 
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN ESCAPE ME BEFORE I ARRIVE?
 
HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO OUTRUN ME
 
'''WHEN I AM ALREADY HERE?'''</i>}} </tabber>


==Background==
==Background==
'''Caliborn''' is the true antagonist of Homestuck. He is one of the two Cherub Sburb players, alongside of his sister, [[Calliope]]. With burning hatred for his sister, he hired [[Lord Jack|an alternate version of Jack Noir]] to kill her, prevailing in the battle of the two, then begins his quest of LOCAM (Land of Colors and Mayhem) to begin his quest for godhood.
By swiftly taking his own life on his quest bed, he ascends to God-Tier shortly afterwards: Becoming the Lord of Time. From thereon, he begins to mess with the narrative until confronted by [[John Egbert]]. After being defeated by John, Caliborn continues his quest to Godhood, defeating Yaldaboath, and gaining his treasure. By destroying the grandfather clock and absorbing the Juju's power, he becomes an ascended God-Tier, beginning his "masterpiece", where he summons the beta and alpha kids.
After sealing the former away in the juju (and then banishing the treasure to the Furthest Ring, making it extremely difficult to be found), he proceeds to stomp the latter until [[Jake English]] used the field of hope to knock him down, [[Equius Zahhak|Arquius]] making a suprise appearence to hold him down, and [[Dirk Strider]] to start to extract his soul from his body. Allowing this to happen, Caliborn allows the soul of himself, Arquiusprite, and one half of Gamzee Makara to be sealed in to Lil' Cal, then travel all the way back in time, allowing to plant the seeds of his existence into unsuspecting people, allowing himself to will himself into existence once the universe is destroyed, becoming '''Lord English''', an indestructible demon that proceeds to destroy all of existence to secure his own.
==Powers and Stats==
'''[[Tiering System|Tier]]''': Likely '''9-A''' physically. '''8-A''' with weapons | At least '''High 2-B''' | At least '''High 2-B''' | At least '''Low 1-C''', would eventually become '''1-B''', possibly '''far higher'''
'''Name''': Caliborn, undyingUmbrarage (screen name) | Lord of Time | The Lordling | Lord English ("LE" for short), Angel of Double Death, Lord of Time, Father Time, Invisible/Unseen Riddler, the "Anti-Narrative"
'''Origin''': [[Homestuck]]
'''Age''': 11 "units" | As before | In his 20s or 30s (Claims to be an adult) | Older than time and the narrative of Homestuck itself
'''Classification''': Cherub, Sburb player | God-Tier | Ascended God-Tier | Indestructible paradox demon, Unholy fusion of several entities
'''[[Attack Potency]]''': Likely '''Small Building level''' physically (Shouldn't be much weaker than other Sburb Players). '''Multi-City Block level''' with weapons (Shown several times to be able to harm [[Gamzee Makara]]) | At least '''Multiverse level+''' (As a Lord, he should be above all other god-tiers, including the likes of [[Jade Harley]]) | At least '''Multiverse level+''' (Superior to before, stomped on all the beta and alpha kids) | At least '''Low Complex Multiversal level+''' ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7869 Consistently] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5396 stated] to be [https://imgur.com/a/JIcHcxH able to destroy all of Paradox Space], [https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/prologue/2 being able to conceptually unravel it] and being able to [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5953 cleave its very foundations], which is at least [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5490 5-Dimensional] and has platonic concepts that transcend them. [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797656920454463498/799379911944306698/image0.jpg Andrew Hussie states that Lord English is detached from the narrative], putting him comparable to the likes of [[Dirk Strider|Ultimate Dirk]]. After absorbing his powers, [[Calliope]] overpowered Ultimate Dirk), would eventually become '''Transverse level''', possibly '''far higher''' ([https://www.homestuck2.com/story/130 Through the system of players beating their universe and obtaining ultimate being status happening ad infinitum, and it is stated that they "stack" on one another], the multiverse will continuously grow in size dimensionally. Lord English is capable of destroying Paradox Space, which contains all of existence, including the outcome of this event) 
'''[[Dimensionality]]''': '''3-D''' | '''3-D''' | '''3-D''' | '''7-D''', would eventually become '''Countless''', possibly '''far higher'''
'''[[Speed|Travel Speed]]''': '''Supersonic+''' (Comparable to the other Sburb Players) | '''Extra-Temporal''' (Fought evenly with God-Tier John Egbert) | '''Extra-Temporal''' (Superior to before, sealed the Beta Kids before they could react and stomped on all the Alpha Kids) | '''Extra-Temporal'''
'''[[Speed|Combat Speed]]:''' '''Supersonic+''', '''Massively FTL+''' with weapons (Blitzed Gamzee) | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal'''
'''[[Reactions|Reaction Speed]]:''' '''Supersonic+''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal''' | '''Extra-Temporal'''
'''[[Striking Strength]]:''' Likely '''Small Building level''' | At least '''High Multiversal''' | At least '''High Multiversal''' | At least '''Low Complex Multiversal+''', would eventually become '''Transverse level''', possibly '''far higher'''
'''[[Durability]]:''' Likely '''Small Building level''' | At least '''High Multiverse level''' (Tanked many hits from John Egbert) | At least '''High Multiverse level''' (Not even Jake's hope field could scratch him) | At least '''Complex Multiversal level+''' (Can only be harmed by the Ultimate Weapon, implied to be alive after the furthest ring collapsed on him), would eventually become '''Transverse level''', possibly '''far higher'''
'''[[Stamina]]:''' Very Higher. Trekked LOCAM without any signs of exhaustion | Higher | Limitless | Limitless
'''[[Range]]:''' Standard Melee, Higher with Rifle, High Multiversal with Mind Control (Can control Jack from another session), Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passive fate/causality/probability/plot manipulation (they affect all of Paradox Space, [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5490 which is 5th dimensional] and has platonic concepts that transcends it, along with the event of the infinite stack of creators) | High Multiversal, Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passives | High Multiversal, Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passives | At least Complex Multiversal+, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher
'''[[Hax|Powers and Abilities]]:''' <tabber> |-|Base=[[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 1), [[Breaking the Fourth Wall]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/5478 Can hear the narration] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5485 and the background music]), [[Immortality]] (Type 8; As a "supreme villian", Caliborn can't be stopped from coming into being, nor can you kill him until Paradox Space allows it), [[Mind Manipulation]] with Lil' Cal ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/5808 Can control Jack] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5810 when he looks in Cal's eyes], [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5812 making him stab himself]), Limited [[Power Nullification]] with his Juju Breaker ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/5492 Possesses the Juju Breaker], an object [https://www.homestuck.com/story/1313 which cancel and destroy] [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/3/36/Crowbar_negate_all_juju_like_abilities.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181119215737&path-prefix=fr all Juju-like abilities]), [[Self-Sustenance]], passive [[Fate Manipulation]], [[Causality Manipulation]], [[Probability Manipulation]] and [[Plot Manipulation]] (Type 4; [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5671 has passive control over the forces of inevitability], [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5673 which make it so all events, outcomes and causality serve and answer to him, to the point where he becomes responsible for everything that ever happens]), [[Acausality]] [[Power Nullification|Negation]] (Type 3 with his [[Fate Manipulation]], [[Probability Manipulation]], and [[Causality Manipulation]]: Horrorterrors, [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2850 who naturally exist in the Furthest Ring, an infinite void that is untouched by space or time of any universe and where time] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/3593 and space is incredibly non-linear, are also affected by the forces of inevitability]), Passive [[Subjective Reality]] and [[Conceptual Manipulation|Conceptual]] [[Existence Erasure]] (After having gained full control over the events of canon, [https://imgur.com/a/RdmVNLu he can control the three pillars of canon, where everything "not-canon" is not true]. Should he be defeated, [https://imgur.com/a/9nziLiI his defeat shall be "untrue" and radioactively discredited]. [https://imgur.com/a/YQTmjxD When John chose not to fight Lord English in the Candy Timeline, it became "non-canon" and the only reason why it is connected to the narrative is because Calliope has given it an "artificial supply of gravity" in it lacks a natural one]. Should you go against Lord English's control of canon, [https://imgur.com/a/9xNMpRy you are fated to die, your timeline becomes "doomed", your own concept will erase itself and Paradox Space will collapse on you], [https://imgur.com/a/1MtpsbC and what is true and canon must happen, what is not true and not canon can't]), [[Resistance]] to [[Gravity Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/5261 Unaffected by the gravitational attraction of his Kernelsprite]) |-|God-Tier=All previous powers to a greater extent, [[Sburb Player Physiology]] (Type 2; Lord of Time), enhanced [[Causality Manipulation]], [[Fate Manipulation]], [[Probability Manipulation]], and [[Plot Manipulation]] (Type 4; Now has more control over the outcomes of fate and causality, as well as superior control over the narrative. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6247 Possesses the Gift of Gab], [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6248 allowing him to control the narrative at will]), enhanced [[Accelerated Development]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6246 Can climb the echheladder by just standing around]), [[Life Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6504 Can create life]), can "Unlock any lock" [https://www.homestuck.com/story/6248 with the Skeleton Key Badge], [[Power Nullification]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/6243 Can prevent the reader from going to the next page]) |-|Post-Collide=All previous powers to a greater extent, [[Invulnerability]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7414 Stated to be invulnerable]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7437 Was not harmed by Jake's Field of Hope despite being knocked down by it]), [[Soul Manipulation]] and [[Sealing]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7423 Trapped the souls of the Beta Kids into the Juju]), [[BFR]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7425 Banished the Juju into the Furthest Ring]), [[Energy Projection]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7425 Stated he could make a "Rainbow Seizure Field" that could contest or overpower Jake's Field of Hope]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7416 Can create clockwork lasers]), [[Resistance Negation]] and [[Power Modification]] ([https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/9/97/HWEITKt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190603102340 Overwrote the Beta Kid's powers on a metatextual level]), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] ([https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/1/1b/JTIEKGTA.png/revision/latest?cb=20190604220038 destroy the very concept of light and it's source]), [[Resistance]] to [[Soul Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7443 Even when being held down, Dirk could not destroy his soul]) and [[Energy Projection]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7437 Jake's Field of Hope could not harm him]) |-|Lord English=All previous powers to a massively greater extent, [[Irreversible Damage]] and [[Existence Erasure]] (Type 5; [https://imgur.com/a/vTyLhj7 His existence erasure works as a poison that is antithetical to the narrative and completely erased John Egbert without any hopes of recovery, as it was unable to heal from]. [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/omniversal-battlefield/images/e/e9/HFJE.png/revision/latest?cb=20190604215826 His poison also is able to block healing on a metaphysical level]. [https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11127/111279017/5461077-text.png Doing this, Lord English can negate Immortality]), [[Reality Warping]], [[Void Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7443 His existence includes] Equius Zahhak, the Heir of Void. John Egbert, the Heir of Breath, has wind powers, so Equius most logically has void powers), [[Conceptual Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/prologue/2https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/prologue/2 Can conceptually unravel existence]), [[Plot Manipulation]] (Types 3 and 4; Granted Gamzee plot Armour. [https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:YuriAkuto/Homestuck_books%27_collection_of_Words_of_God#Book_4 As the "Invisible/Unseen Riddler", he passively "robs its targets of a meaningful or dignified existence," and is the closest thing to "Absolute God of Paradox Space" and is "best interpreted as the forces of mischief and authorial cruelty or callousness toward the subjects within this fiction, which are laced into the entire narrative and relate closely to the quality of 'authorial scorn'"]. Has a plot-shield that negates attempts to defeat him), [[Genius Intelligence]], [[Death Manipulation]] and [[Mind Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4349 The Embodiment of Death in Troll Mythology is based off of him, if not him outright]. Said embodiment of Death has a Hypnotic Glare. Lil' Cal is his vessel, who Caliborn used to mind control Jack Noir), [[Black Hole Creation]] (Lord Jack [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&feature=youtu.be&t=15m49s can create a black hole]),  [[Reality Separation]] and [[Acausality]] (Type 5; Is stated to be detached from the narrative), [[Rage Power]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19Up0dLzNw Gamzee becomes more powerful when angry]), [[Dream Manipulation]] and [[Fear Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7445 Using Gamzee's powers, he inserted himself into Dave's dreams and influenced reality from them. By using these powers, he willed himself into existence within the dreams of people across as many universes as possible, masterminding the surfacing of his true power from these manifestations, despite having his original soul cast into the void.] Gamzee can [https://wheals.github.io/formspring/formspring.html#question224762224403577955 subconsciously inflict nightmares] and [https://wheals.github.io/formspring/formspring.html#question224748966091191082 can insert himself into dreams to terrorize them]) [[Immortality]] (Types 1, 2, 3, and 8; Has his soul cast in the void, where from their he can will himself into existence from the nightmares of people's dreams), [[Power Bestowal]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4873 Stated to boost the Condesce's power]. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/7526 Gave some of his power to Lord Jack.]), [[Curse Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/4069 Cursed the Handmaid with Immortality]), [[Non-Corporeal]], [[Forcefield Creation]] (Has all the powers of the first guardians, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/scratch/room70.gif who can do this.]), [[Pocket Reality Manipulation]], [[Technological Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/2091 Likely created the completely unhackable ~ATH program which is linked to his own existence.] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSPGQqaEt3g&feature=youtu.be&t=2h1m42s Doc Scratch is implied to be the creator of Scratchware, which is protected even from technologically advanced alien surveillance.] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5037 Lil' Hal (one of ARquiusprite's components) was able to take control of other computers]), [[Fire Manipulation]] (His components can [https://www.homestuck.com/story/3996 produce] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5822 fire]), [[Size Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/980 First Guardians can change size]), [[Sleep Manipulation]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/3320 Doc Scratch can put people to sleep]), [[Spatial Manipulation|Space]]-[[Time Manipulation]], [[Empathic Manipulation]] (Doc Scratch can [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/8/85/Empathic_manip.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224112731&path-prefix=fr induce] [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/9/90/Induce_frienship_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224112849&path-prefix=fr friendship]), [[Memory Manipulation]] (Doc Scratch [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionnal-battle/images/c/c4/Memorymanip.png/revision/latest?cb=20181224114633&path-prefix=fr can manipulate or wipe memories]), [[Summoning]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&feature=youtu.be&t=3m52s Arquiusprite can summon robotic horses], and Lord English [https://www.homestuck.com/story/8104 can seemingly summon multicolored horses]), [[Acausality]] [[Power Nullification|Negation]] (Type 5, as he was able to physically contest with and eventually erase John Egbert, [https://imgur.com/a/xn0LPg3 who has multiple times stated to] [https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/meat/4 completely transcend] [https://www.homestuck.com/epilogues/meat/11 the confines of canon]), [[Possession]] ([https://www.homestuck.com/story/7526 Possesses Lord Jack]), [[Teleportation]] and [[BFR]] (Type 1; [https://www.homestuck.com/story/3871 Doc Scratch can do this]), [[Nonexistent Physiology]] (Type 2; Equius has void powers akin to how John as wind powers. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5347 John can turn into sheer wind, meaning Equius could turn into sheer void.] [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2091 Summoned when] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIau2KHj9-I&t the universe is completely destroyed.] His soul was cast into the void), [[Danmaku]] (As he showcased it [https://youtu.be/Y5wYN6rB_Rg?t=673 here]), [[Resistance]] to [[Radiation Manipulation]], [[Fear Manipulation]] and [[Dream Manipulation]] (Gamzee, like English, has blood flowing through his veins that inflicts nightmares, thus meaning they resist it), [[Spatial Manipulation|Space]]-[[Time Manipulation]], [[Time Stop]], and [[Plot Manipulation]] (Type 4: Doc Scratch is immune to be the other guy. Detached from the narrative), [[Omnipresence]] (Type 2. [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5673 Stated that all outcomes are part of his being] and [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797656920454463498/799386724014358558/image0.jpg Homestuck Book 6 states he has an all encompassing presence]) </tabber>
'''[[Standard Equipment]]:''' Cane that can morph into a gun, Juju Breaker | Golden Cane that can morph into a gun | All previous, Juju, Lil'Cal, Gamzee Makara | Green Sun Cane that can morph into an AK-47
'''[[Intelligence]]:''' Extremely cunning and clever with an understanding of space-time, but stuck in puberty, and is Immature | Same as before | Same as before, possibly '''Cosmic''' (Potentially has control of most of his powers at this point | '''Cosmic''' (Doc Scratch, who is part of him, consistently stated to be omniscient or [https://www.homestuck.com/story/2253 near-omniscient]. Dirkbot, also part of him, [https://www.homestuck.com/story/5641 is "cyber-omniscient"])
'''Standard Tactics''': Caliborn attacks with his Juju, which negates the magical effects of an artifact in the timeline, or uses his rifle | As before | He begins by opening the Juju, sealing the souls of up to 4 targets into a Juju, then banishing it into somewhere into the furthest ring. Thereon, he usually uses energy projection | Lord English makes consistent use of his double death (Existence Erasure, Irreversible Damage, and Immortality/Regeneration Negation) ability (See note below)
'''Weaknesses:''' Caliborn is extremely immature and permanently stuck in puberty, and is also quick to being completely unreasonable | Same as before, Resurrection will not work if his death is deemed "Heroic" or "Just" | Same as his base (No longer bound the the Heroic or Just death system), very arrogant an underestimative of his opponents due to his newfound powers | With potent enough space-time manipulation (mainly, "glitches/paradoxes in space time") is able to allow you to harm him and ignore his plot shield. The Destruction of the Green Sun severely weakens Lord English and removes the plot shield completely. Is not in a complete state of nonexistence, only being able to turn completely nonexistent on thought.
'''Keys:''' '''Base''' | '''God-Tier''' | '''Post-Collide''' | '''Lord English'''
'''Note''': There is some contention revolving around Lord English's starting move; In one scene, he opens up by punching a bunch of trolls, which mistakes many people thinking he doesn't open up with powers. However, this has several holes:
*That was not the very beginning of the fight: Prior to this, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5wYN6rB_Rg&t=129s Lord English uses double death] on Karkat, who is only 9-A with little hax.
*This is contradicted in [S] Caliborn: Enter, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluSImcNwac where Lord English destroys an entire dream bubble filled with the ghost of dead players] (Skip to 2:36)
*The reason why Lord English resorted to punching was likely due to PIS; Lord English could've easily destroyed the dream bubble along with the Ghost Army with it, but instead resorting to physicals due to how it took place in [S] Collide, Homestuck's final battle, meaning it must be cinematic, and Lord English effortlessly destroying them all would be in character, but very anti-climatic for a final battle, thus the animators made him mix it up with physical attacks and double death rather than nuking the entire dream bubble with double death
==Battle Records==
'''Notable Victories:'''
[https://debatesjungle.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000005338/ Enerjak (Archie Comics)] - [[Enerjak (Archie Comics)|Enerjak's profile]] (Both were at 2-A)
'''Notable Losses:'''
[https://debatesjungle.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000018236 Ness] [[Mother|(Mother 2)]] - [[Ness|Ness's profile]] (Both were at 9-A and speed was equalized)


==Powers and Statistics==
'''Inconclusive Matches:'''
'''[[Tiering System|Tier]]''': '''9-A''' | At least '''9-A'''. '''Unknown''' with the Retcon Powers, '''1-C''' with the Blackout | '''1-C'''

Revision as of 12:13, 7 May 2021

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I HAVE PORED OVER EVERY NAUSEATING VERSE. IT HAS BEEN A TRUE EXERCISE IN AGONY. FEW COULD POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND MY SUFFERING.

BUT THAT'S OK.

BECAUSE I'M NOT THE IDIOT KID I USED TO BE. NOW I KNOW. THAT WHAT IT TAKES FOR ME TO LEARN AND GROW STRONGER.

IS EXCRUCIATING EFFORT.

SO I HAVE A CHOICE. WHICH IS TO EITHER BE WEAK.

WHEN WEAKNESS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.

OR TO SUFFER. FOREVER. UNTIL NO ONE ELSE EXISTS.

WHO IS STRONGER THAN ME.

~ Caliborn
I WILL DUEL AND CRUSH MY SLITHERING SEXUAL SNAKE BOSS, AND FINISH WHAT I STARTED WHEN I STEPPED MY METAL FOOT INTO THIS CHILDREN'S FARCE. I WILL DO THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO, AND WHEN THAT IS SAID AND DONE, AND YOU SEE ME AT THE PEAK OF A MOUNTAIN OF TROPHIES, RESTING ON MY THRONE OF PRIZES, I WANT TO GET TO TELL YOU THAT I DID WHAT I WANTED TO DO. SO IF YOU REMEMBER JUST ONE THING I SAY, OF SO MANY GREAT THINGS SAID BY ME, THEN PLEASE REMEMBER THIS.

I WANTED TO PLAY A GAME.

GIRL.

YOU THERE. GIRL.

GIRL, QUIT ALL THIS SCURRYING AROUND.

DO YOU THINK YOU CAN ESCAPE ME BEFORE I ARRIVE?

HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO OUTRUN ME

WHEN I AM ALREADY HERE?

Background

Caliborn is the true antagonist of Homestuck. He is one of the two Cherub Sburb players, alongside of his sister, Calliope. With burning hatred for his sister, he hired an alternate version of Jack Noir to kill her, prevailing in the battle of the two, then begins his quest of LOCAM (Land of Colors and Mayhem) to begin his quest for godhood.

By swiftly taking his own life on his quest bed, he ascends to God-Tier shortly afterwards: Becoming the Lord of Time. From thereon, he begins to mess with the narrative until confronted by John Egbert. After being defeated by John, Caliborn continues his quest to Godhood, defeating Yaldaboath, and gaining his treasure. By destroying the grandfather clock and absorbing the Juju's power, he becomes an ascended God-Tier, beginning his "masterpiece", where he summons the beta and alpha kids.

After sealing the former away in the juju (and then banishing the treasure to the Furthest Ring, making it extremely difficult to be found), he proceeds to stomp the latter until Jake English used the field of hope to knock him down, Arquius making a suprise appearence to hold him down, and Dirk Strider to start to extract his soul from his body. Allowing this to happen, Caliborn allows the soul of himself, Arquiusprite, and one half of Gamzee Makara to be sealed in to Lil' Cal, then travel all the way back in time, allowing to plant the seeds of his existence into unsuspecting people, allowing himself to will himself into existence once the universe is destroyed, becoming Lord English, an indestructible demon that proceeds to destroy all of existence to secure his own.

Powers and Stats

Tier: Likely 9-A physically. 8-A with weapons | At least High 2-B | At least High 2-B | At least Low 1-C, would eventually become 1-B, possibly far higher

Name: Caliborn, undyingUmbrarage (screen name) | Lord of Time | The Lordling | Lord English ("LE" for short), Angel of Double Death, Lord of Time, Father Time, Invisible/Unseen Riddler, the "Anti-Narrative"

Origin: Homestuck

Age: 11 "units" | As before | In his 20s or 30s (Claims to be an adult) | Older than time and the narrative of Homestuck itself

Classification: Cherub, Sburb player | God-Tier | Ascended God-Tier | Indestructible paradox demon, Unholy fusion of several entities

Attack Potency: Likely Small Building level physically (Shouldn't be much weaker than other Sburb Players). Multi-City Block level with weapons (Shown several times to be able to harm Gamzee Makara) | At least Multiverse level+ (As a Lord, he should be above all other god-tiers, including the likes of Jade Harley) | At least Multiverse level+ (Superior to before, stomped on all the beta and alpha kids) | At least Low Complex Multiversal level+ (Consistently stated to be able to destroy all of Paradox Space, being able to conceptually unravel it and being able to cleave its very foundations, which is at least 5-Dimensional and has platonic concepts that transcend them. Andrew Hussie states that Lord English is detached from the narrative, putting him comparable to the likes of Ultimate Dirk. After absorbing his powers, Calliope overpowered Ultimate Dirk), would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher (Through the system of players beating their universe and obtaining ultimate being status happening ad infinitum, and it is stated that they "stack" on one another, the multiverse will continuously grow in size dimensionally. Lord English is capable of destroying Paradox Space, which contains all of existence, including the outcome of this event)

Dimensionality: 3-D | 3-D | 3-D | 7-D, would eventually become Countless, possibly far higher

Travel Speed: Supersonic+ (Comparable to the other Sburb Players) | Extra-Temporal (Fought evenly with God-Tier John Egbert) | Extra-Temporal (Superior to before, sealed the Beta Kids before they could react and stomped on all the Alpha Kids) | Extra-Temporal

Combat Speed: Supersonic+, Massively FTL+ with weapons (Blitzed Gamzee) | Extra-Temporal | Extra-Temporal | Extra-Temporal

Reaction Speed: Supersonic+ | Extra-Temporal | Extra-Temporal | Extra-Temporal

Striking Strength: Likely Small Building level | At least High Multiversal | At least High Multiversal | At least Low Complex Multiversal+, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher

Durability: Likely Small Building level | At least High Multiverse level (Tanked many hits from John Egbert) | At least High Multiverse level (Not even Jake's hope field could scratch him) | At least Complex Multiversal level+ (Can only be harmed by the Ultimate Weapon, implied to be alive after the furthest ring collapsed on him), would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher

Stamina: Very Higher. Trekked LOCAM without any signs of exhaustion | Higher | Limitless | Limitless

Range: Standard Melee, Higher with Rifle, High Multiversal with Mind Control (Can control Jack from another session), Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passive fate/causality/probability/plot manipulation (they affect all of Paradox Space, which is 5th dimensional and has platonic concepts that transcends it, along with the event of the infinite stack of creators) | High Multiversal, Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passives | High Multiversal, Low Complex Multiversal, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher with passives | At least Complex Multiversal+, would eventually become Transverse level, possibly far higher

Powers and Abilities:

Sburb Player Physiology (Type 1), Breaking the Fourth Wall (Can hear the narration and the background music), Immortality (Type 8; As a "supreme villian", Caliborn can't be stopped from coming into being, nor can you kill him until Paradox Space allows it), Mind Manipulation with Lil' Cal (Can control Jack when he looks in Cal's eyes, making him stab himself), Limited Power Nullification with his Juju Breaker (Possesses the Juju Breaker, an object which cancel and destroy all Juju-like abilities), Self-Sustenance, passive Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Probability Manipulation and Plot Manipulation (Type 4; has passive control over the forces of inevitability, which make it so all events, outcomes and causality serve and answer to him, to the point where he becomes responsible for everything that ever happens), Acausality Negation (Type 3 with his Fate Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, and Causality Manipulation: Horrorterrors, who naturally exist in the Furthest Ring, an infinite void that is untouched by space or time of any universe and where time and space is incredibly non-linear, are also affected by the forces of inevitability), Passive Subjective Reality and Conceptual Existence Erasure (After having gained full control over the events of canon, he can control the three pillars of canon, where everything "not-canon" is not true. Should he be defeated, his defeat shall be "untrue" and radioactively discredited. When John chose not to fight Lord English in the Candy Timeline, it became "non-canon" and the only reason why it is connected to the narrative is because Calliope has given it an "artificial supply of gravity" in it lacks a natural one. Should you go against Lord English's control of canon, you are fated to die, your timeline becomes "doomed", your own concept will erase itself and Paradox Space will collapse on you, and what is true and canon must happen, what is not true and not canon can't), Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (Unaffected by the gravitational attraction of his Kernelsprite)

All previous powers to a greater extent, Sburb Player Physiology (Type 2; Lord of Time), enhanced Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, and Plot Manipulation (Type 4; Now has more control over the outcomes of fate and causality, as well as superior control over the narrative. Possesses the Gift of Gab, allowing him to control the narrative at will), enhanced Accelerated Development (Can climb the echheladder by just standing around), Life Manipulation (Can create life), can "Unlock any lock" with the Skeleton Key Badge, Power Nullification (Can prevent the reader from going to the next page)

All previous powers to a greater extent, Invulnerability (Stated to be invulnerable. Was not harmed by Jake's Field of Hope despite being knocked down by it), Soul Manipulation and Sealing (Trapped the souls of the Beta Kids into the Juju), BFR (Banished the Juju into the Furthest Ring), Energy Projection (Stated he could make a "Rainbow Seizure Field" that could contest or overpower Jake's Field of Hope. Can create clockwork lasers), Resistance Negation and Power Modification (Overwrote the Beta Kid's powers on a metatextual level), Conceptual Manipulation (destroy the very concept of light and it's source), Resistance to Soul Manipulation (Even when being held down, Dirk could not destroy his soul) and Energy Projection (Jake's Field of Hope could not harm him)

All previous powers to a massively greater extent, Irreversible Damage and Existence Erasure (Type 5; His existence erasure works as a poison that is antithetical to the narrative and completely erased John Egbert without any hopes of recovery, as it was unable to heal from. His poison also is able to block healing on a metaphysical level. Doing this, Lord English can negate Immortality), Reality Warping, Void Manipulation (His existence includes Equius Zahhak, the Heir of Void. John Egbert, the Heir of Breath, has wind powers, so Equius most logically has void powers), Conceptual Manipulation (Can conceptually unravel existence), Plot Manipulation (Types 3 and 4; Granted Gamzee plot Armour. As the "Invisible/Unseen Riddler", he passively "robs its targets of a meaningful or dignified existence," and is the closest thing to "Absolute God of Paradox Space" and is "best interpreted as the forces of mischief and authorial cruelty or callousness toward the subjects within this fiction, which are laced into the entire narrative and relate closely to the quality of 'authorial scorn'". Has a plot-shield that negates attempts to defeat him), Genius Intelligence, Death Manipulation and Mind Manipulation (The Embodiment of Death in Troll Mythology is based off of him, if not him outright. Said embodiment of Death has a Hypnotic Glare. Lil' Cal is his vessel, who Caliborn used to mind control Jack Noir), Black Hole Creation (Lord Jack can create a black hole), Reality Separation and Acausality (Type 5; Is stated to be detached from the narrative), Rage Power (Gamzee becomes more powerful when angry), Dream Manipulation and Fear Manipulation (Using Gamzee's powers, he inserted himself into Dave's dreams and influenced reality from them. By using these powers, he willed himself into existence within the dreams of people across as many universes as possible, masterminding the surfacing of his true power from these manifestations, despite having his original soul cast into the void. Gamzee can subconsciously inflict nightmares and can insert himself into dreams to terrorize them) Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3, and 8; Has his soul cast in the void, where from their he can will himself into existence from the nightmares of people's dreams), Power Bestowal (Stated to boost the Condesce's power. Gave some of his power to Lord Jack.), Curse Manipulation (Cursed the Handmaid with Immortality), Non-Corporeal, Forcefield Creation (Has all the powers of the first guardians, who can do this.), Pocket Reality Manipulation, Technological Manipulation (Likely created the completely unhackable ~ATH program which is linked to his own existence. Doc Scratch is implied to be the creator of Scratchware, which is protected even from technologically advanced alien surveillance. Lil' Hal (one of ARquiusprite's components) was able to take control of other computers), Fire Manipulation (His components can produce fire), Size Manipulation (First Guardians can change size), Sleep Manipulation (Doc Scratch can put people to sleep), Space-Time Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation (Doc Scratch can induce friendship), Memory Manipulation (Doc Scratch can manipulate or wipe memories), Summoning (Arquiusprite can summon robotic horses, and Lord English can seemingly summon multicolored horses), Acausality Negation (Type 5, as he was able to physically contest with and eventually erase John Egbert, who has multiple times stated to completely transcend the confines of canon), Possession (Possesses Lord Jack), Teleportation and BFR (Type 1; Doc Scratch can do this), Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2; Equius has void powers akin to how John as wind powers. John can turn into sheer wind, meaning Equius could turn into sheer void. Summoned when the universe is completely destroyed. His soul was cast into the void), Danmaku (As he showcased it here), Resistance to Radiation Manipulation, Fear Manipulation and Dream Manipulation (Gamzee, like English, has blood flowing through his veins that inflicts nightmares, thus meaning they resist it), Space-Time Manipulation, Time Stop, and Plot Manipulation (Type 4: Doc Scratch is immune to be the other guy. Detached from the narrative), Omnipresence (Type 2. Stated that all outcomes are part of his being and Homestuck Book 6 states he has an all encompassing presence)

Standard Equipment: Cane that can morph into a gun, Juju Breaker | Golden Cane that can morph into a gun | All previous, Juju, Lil'Cal, Gamzee Makara | Green Sun Cane that can morph into an AK-47

Intelligence: Extremely cunning and clever with an understanding of space-time, but stuck in puberty, and is Immature | Same as before | Same as before, possibly Cosmic (Potentially has control of most of his powers at this point | Cosmic (Doc Scratch, who is part of him, consistently stated to be omniscient or near-omniscient. Dirkbot, also part of him, is "cyber-omniscient")

Standard Tactics: Caliborn attacks with his Juju, which negates the magical effects of an artifact in the timeline, or uses his rifle | As before | He begins by opening the Juju, sealing the souls of up to 4 targets into a Juju, then banishing it into somewhere into the furthest ring. Thereon, he usually uses energy projection | Lord English makes consistent use of his double death (Existence Erasure, Irreversible Damage, and Immortality/Regeneration Negation) ability (See note below)

Weaknesses: Caliborn is extremely immature and permanently stuck in puberty, and is also quick to being completely unreasonable | Same as before, Resurrection will not work if his death is deemed "Heroic" or "Just" | Same as his base (No longer bound the the Heroic or Just death system), very arrogant an underestimative of his opponents due to his newfound powers | With potent enough space-time manipulation (mainly, "glitches/paradoxes in space time") is able to allow you to harm him and ignore his plot shield. The Destruction of the Green Sun severely weakens Lord English and removes the plot shield completely. Is not in a complete state of nonexistence, only being able to turn completely nonexistent on thought.

Keys: Base | God-Tier | Post-Collide | Lord English

Note: There is some contention revolving around Lord English's starting move; In one scene, he opens up by punching a bunch of trolls, which mistakes many people thinking he doesn't open up with powers. However, this has several holes:

  • The reason why Lord English resorted to punching was likely due to PIS; Lord English could've easily destroyed the dream bubble along with the Ghost Army with it, but instead resorting to physicals due to how it took place in [S] Collide, Homestuck's final battle, meaning it must be cinematic, and Lord English effortlessly destroying them all would be in character, but very anti-climatic for a final battle, thus the animators made him mix it up with physical attacks and double death rather than nuking the entire dream bubble with double death

Battle Records

Notable Victories:

Enerjak (Archie Comics) - Enerjak's profile (Both were at 2-A)

Notable Losses:

Ness (Mother 2) - Ness's profile (Both were at 9-A and speed was equalized)

Inconclusive Matches: