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==Introduction==
==Introduction==
"Death of the Author is a concept from mid-20th Century literary criticism; it holds that an author's intentions and biographical facts (the author's politics, religion, etc) should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their own work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader. Intentions are one thing. What was actually accomplished might be something very different. The logic behind the concept is fairly simple: Books are meant to be read, not written, so the ways readers interpret them are as important and "real" as the author's intention. On the flip side, a lot of authors are unavailable or unwilling to comment on their intentions, and even when they are, they don't always make choices for reasons that make sense or are easily explainable to others (or sometimes even to themselves)."
"'''Death of the Author''' is a concept from mid-20th Century literary criticism; it holds that an author's intentions and biographical facts (the author's politics, religion, etc) should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader. Intentions are one thing. What was accomplished might be something very different. The logic behind the concept is fairly simple: Books are meant to be read, not written, so the ways readers interpret them are as important and "real" as the author's intention. On the flip side, a lot of authors are unavailable or unwilling to comment on their intentions, and even when they are, they don't always make choices for reasons that make sense or are easily explainable to others (or sometimes even to themselves)."


-[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathOfTheAuthor Source]
-[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathOfTheAuthor Source]


==How to tell what is and what isn't Death of the Author==
==How it is used here==
The authors statement's should only be used if it consistent with the story makes sense with the verse.
As Death of the Author is a concept made from mid-20th Century literary criticisms, it is not a fallacy nor an official term for debunking or disproving an author, it's an idea someone had.  
 
An Example of author statements that shouldn't be used is [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556870391587667968/616806503189446706/Screen_Shot_2019-07-18_at_10.40.15_PM.png?width=401&height=289 Godzilla being able to destory all of IDW], when that wouldn't be consistent with the IDW Comics and the authors of the Godzilla IDW Comics [https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11112/111128182/5049667-9527032320-50495.jpg have made] [https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/14/147508/6055739-5044595-4482648675-50445.jpg ridiculous statements before]. Another example is Stan Lee stating [[Galactus (Marvel Comics)|Galactus]] [https://external-preview.redd.it/ViiIsI3Y-9610ClIgSknMR2UFNV2NoXBVzpTndH5zfQ.jpg?auto=webp&s=863c995d162552c83ed25fe0a98d4d711e369838 is the strongest Marvel character] when this isn't consistent with the comics at all.
 
Author statements that can be used are statements like [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678028869856395302/769233606115590224/Screenshot_20201023-181929_Chrome.jpg ZUN calling Hecatia the strongest] as there's characters that reaffirm it in the series and nothing goes against this statement.


One should also watch out for wording like "to my knowledge", "probably", and "if you want it to be" as these are normally a dismissive comment from the author to get a person off their back about questions they frankly do not care about.  
However, this does not mean the wiki subscribes to the idea that the author is completely omniscient in their work. Perfect examples are if an author claims a character is not superhuman, while the narrative itself through story shows the character is indeed superhuman, then we must abide by what the narrative says and disagree with the author on the character not being superhuman.


==Conclusion==
Death of the Author is a important thing one should watch out for. One should only use author statements if they are consistent and make sense with the story and if the author does not make statements that would be completely absurd. Otherwise, it should be deemed Death of the Author and should not be used.
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Introduction

"Death of the Author is a concept from mid-20th Century literary criticism; it holds that an author's intentions and biographical facts (the author's politics, religion, etc) should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. This is usually understood as meaning that a writer's views about their work are no more or less valid than the interpretations of any given reader. Intentions are one thing. What was accomplished might be something very different. The logic behind the concept is fairly simple: Books are meant to be read, not written, so the ways readers interpret them are as important and "real" as the author's intention. On the flip side, a lot of authors are unavailable or unwilling to comment on their intentions, and even when they are, they don't always make choices for reasons that make sense or are easily explainable to others (or sometimes even to themselves)."

-Source

How it is used here

As Death of the Author is a concept made from mid-20th Century literary criticisms, it is not a fallacy nor an official term for debunking or disproving an author, it's an idea someone had.

However, this does not mean the wiki subscribes to the idea that the author is completely omniscient in their work. Perfect examples are if an author claims a character is not superhuman, while the narrative itself through story shows the character is indeed superhuman, then we must abide by what the narrative says and disagree with the author on the character not being superhuman.