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Eyeballing Feats
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As the calculation usage page explains, we heavily treat calculations as a secondary and with calculations like pixelscaling being essentially banned, a larger reliance on eyeballing is needed. The following page will list some common eyeball feats that can be easily given a number depending on the situation.
As eyeball feats are naturally very assumptious, even with the numbers given here, they need support and backup to truly be placed as a tier on a page.
Common Eyeballs
- An explosion that can be seen from space (an explosion on the planet's surface)
- Explanation: Explosions seen from space are a pretty common showing of an author to play with a Rule of Cool. Do note as due to these being rule of cools most of the time they must be shown to be consistent with a character in question. These can vary in power though there are ways we dictate what tier it would receive on this wiki. Do note that even if it's seen from outerspace if the actual damage it does in a series is actively shown, then you do not use the eyeball measurements here. For example, Nappa's giant storm is depicted in games of creating an explosion seen from outerspace[1], and in the show can be seen having a great flash come out of the planet yet the resulting damage is not at all equivalent. Thus you would not use this page as a clear defined destruction has been visually shown. The main important thing for eyeballing is seeing exactly what the explosion covered on the planet.
- If it covered a country: This would be rated as 6-B unless contradicted in the series.
- If it covered a continent: This would be rated as 6-A unless contradicted in the series.
- If it covered a large portion of the planet but specifically it's ocean: This is where it gets more tedious. Normally for cases like this due to it being a large portion of a planet, the safe assumption would be 6-A as a noticeable flash from orbit would need to be cover thousands of miles which is around the size of continents. If it's multiple explosions then it would be High 6-A as it is covering what would essentially be multiple continents, a popular example is Chrono Trigger's game over where Lavos's rains of destruction[2] causes explosions all around the planet[3].
- If it covers half the planet: As the moon is only 27% of the Earth, this would be 5-C as it went over even the moon's percentage.
- Explanation: Explosions seen from space are a pretty common showing of an author to play with a Rule of Cool. Do note as due to these being rule of cools most of the time they must be shown to be consistent with a character in question. These can vary in power though there are ways we dictate what tier it would receive on this wiki. Do note that even if it's seen from outerspace if the actual damage it does in a series is actively shown, then you do not use the eyeball measurements here. For example, Nappa's giant storm is depicted in games of creating an explosion seen from outerspace[1], and in the show can be seen having a great flash come out of the planet yet the resulting damage is not at all equivalent. Thus you would not use this page as a clear defined destruction has been visually shown. The main important thing for eyeballing is seeing exactly what the explosion covered on the planet.
- Destruction of a forest
- Explanation: Forest destruction is another pretty common thing in fiction, these are notably harder as how much of a forest covered in said destruction is rarely mentioned. There are some ways though to find levels. Do note this is under the assumption this was all done within one attack, anything overtime is auto-discredited from being used here. Also due to the vagueness of forests and how they serve as another rule of cool, there needs to be a lot of support to justify these tiers.
- If the entire forest is destroyed: 7-C. A large forest stretches for miles in every direction, normally being town-sized due to this.
- A significant portion of the forest is destroyed: When a significant portion is destroyed, this is normally 8-B to 8-A as a way of serving it just being under town. As a middle ground, normally just list "8-B, likely 8-A.".
- Dozens of Trees Destroyed: This would normally be 8-C as essentially the equivalent to a house was affected.
- Explanation: Forest destruction is another pretty common thing in fiction, these are notably harder as how much of a forest covered in said destruction is rarely mentioned. There are some ways though to find levels. Do note this is under the assumption this was all done within one attack, anything overtime is auto-discredited from being used here. Also due to the vagueness of forests and how they serve as another rule of cool, there needs to be a lot of support to justify these tiers.
- Destroying a mountain Mountains vary heavily in size, though if the author normally notes it to be equivalent to actual large mountains, it would normally reach around 7-A as it would take megatons of energy to destroy. Off-handed mountain statements should normally have other scenes to back it up.
Warnings
There are some cases where eyeballing a feat won't help, this is due to several factors:
Purposeful Visual Rule of Cool
At the end of the day, these series are not made with set power levels in mind, thus many times something could be done just to look cool instead of be literal.
- Luther Strode from Image Comics is noted by his author that he is actually only twice as strong/fast as the strongest/fastest person on Earth and any big feats done are purely skill and visual flare[4].
- When Butch Hartman is asked if he was aware of Danny Phantom's feat being as powerful as stated in the Death Battle, he just noted he just thought it looked cool and didn't have any consideration about the strength in mind[5].
References
- ↑ Dragon Ball Budokai 3 Nappa Giant Storm
- ↑ Chrono Trigger Lavos Game Over
- ↑ Chrono Trigger Lavos Game Over
- ↑ "CV: Some time ago, you attempted to explain Luther Strode's physical limits on Twitter and honestly, it has generated a lot of arguing and confusion in the battle forums over here. It seems like you have a clear limit in mind for Strode's strength, speed, and what not, but the energetic and over-the-top visuals have many people thinking he's more powerful than you said he is. Would you like to expand on those thoughts?
JJ: Heh, that was kind of shitstorm, eh?
Basically, there are a couple things that go into that.
One is the nature of how Luther’s powers work. It’s not JUST that he’s superhumanly strong, it’s that he also knows where the weak spots are. So ripping people apart isn’t just the strength. Likewise, while he’s fast, the ability to dodge bullets is mostly based on being able to see where the barrels are pointed and react to it.
The other is visual flourishes. The smoke from Jack’s eyes? Not meant to be interpreted literally, any more than speed lines are. Likewise, if looks like a sonic boom, that doesn’t mean it is.
But, really, at the end of the day, the limits on his abilities are fundamentally fuzzy. They weren’t designed with gaming in mind, just as a guide to what does and doesn’t fit within the universe. Luther can’t, for instance, pick a car up over his head. He can pretty easily flip one over. The general rule is that Luther is fuzzily about twice as strong as the strongest person every to live, twice as fast, etc." - ↑ Creator of Danny Phantom REACTS to DEATH BATTLE | Butch Hartman
