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This page is meant to explain '''Reality - Fiction Interaction''' feats that are a common occurrence within fiction. We should evaluate characters by their quantifiable feats that they have demonstrated. How certain cases of [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|4th Wall Breaking]] and Author Avatars apply to this is a case-by-case evaluation that needs context. However, these are our general rules regarding how we handle these kinds of feats:
== Introduction ==
'''Reality - Fiction Interaction''' feats are a common trope in fiction, often appearing when characters transcend the boundaries of their own worlds. This page is dedicated to explaining how such feats are evaluated and the importance of distinguishing between representations of reality and the genuine interaction with it. Characters may demonstrate interactions with what seems to be "real" worlds or realities, but these feats do not inherently lead to higher-tier rankings for the characters involved.
 
== The Nature of Reality and Fiction ==
In fiction, the concept of "reality" is often portrayed as a construct within the narrative. Authors and creators may choose to represent the real world within their fictional works, but it is crucial to understand that these representations are not the same as actual reality. While it may appear that a character interacts with or affects a "real world", such actions are limited to the fictional context and do not signify true transcendence beyond the fictional realm. Fictional worlds and characters within them are bound by the rules and limitations of their creators' constructs.
 
Characters cannot receive a guaranteed higher-tier rating based on their ability to affect or destroy a "real world" within the fictional context. As discussed in the [[Sub-Reality Existence]] page, entities that exist in fictional or subordinate realities are confined to their respective planes. These sub-realities, such as fictional worlds, dreams, or storybooks, are perceived from the perspective of a primary reality, and interactions with them do not result in genuine transcendence. Thus, actions that involve altering, affecting, or interacting with a fictional "real world" cannot be used to elevate a character’s status to higher-dimensional or higher-tiered levels without additional context.
 
== Fourth Wall Breaking and Author Avatars ==
Feats involving breaking the fourth wall or interacting with an author's avatar are often treated as a form of reality-to-fiction interaction. However, such feats should not be automatically interpreted as evidence of transcendence over the verse. While breaking the fourth wall may allow characters to acknowledge their fictional nature or address the audience, it does not imply that the characters are transcending their fictional world or reaching higher-dimensional planes of existence. Similarly, author avatars—characters that represent the creator within the fictional world—do not inherently provide a higher-tier rating.
 
Examples of author avatars include Stan Lee's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFzDEySeYdY consistent cameos in the ''Marvel Cinematic Universe''], where he appears briefly to reference his contributions to ''[[Marvel Comics]]'', or [[Rohan Kishibe]], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gALpKoFDtOM  who serves as an in-universe representation of Hirohiko Araki] in the ''[[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]] series''. In both cases, the characters do not gain any special powers or transcendence over the fiction they inhabit. The same logic applies to characters who "defeat" or "kill" author avatars. Such actions do not automatically indicate a transcendence over the fiction they inhabit, as the rules of their respective worlds still bind the avatars.
 
Additionally, the developers of ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'' make an appearance in a secret ending, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt59UP_MpjU&start=306 but this is more of a comedic reference to their overwork than anything that impacts the power level of characters].
 
== Fictional Realms and Hierarchies ==
It is important to note that merely perceiving a franchise's setting as fiction does not imply that a character exists on a higher plane of existence. For instance, a character from a higher-dimensional layer may recognize the setting of a multiverse as inferior or beneath them, but this perception alone does not grant them transcendence over the entire multiverse. The concept of "higher layers" in fiction often refers to worlds or realities that are perceived as being outside or beyond the main narrative but do not necessarily imply true transcendence. Characters may only seem to be transcendent in relation to their own fictional context.
 
In this sense, feats involving interactions with fictional worlds, whether through 4th wall breaking or author avatars, are still bound by the fictional constructs established within the narrative. These feats should be evaluated within the context of the fictional world and not assumed to grant a higher-tier or higher-dimensional rating without further supporting evidence.
 
== Conclusion ==
The key takeaway from the evaluation of reality-to-fiction interaction feats is that they do not inherently lead to a higher-tier status for characters. While characters may interact with their worlds or break the fourth wall, these actions are limited by the context of the narrative and the rules established by the creators. As explained in the [[Sub-Reality Existence]] page, entities within subordinate planes, such as fictional worlds, are confined to their respective realities unless they possess abilities to transcend their boundaries. Therefore, reality-to-fiction interactions should not be viewed as proof of transcendence but rather as narrative devices that serve the story's progression.


*It should be established that fiction and reality can never truly interact, regardless of what the intent is. Authors can represent our reality within their fictional worlds. However, it must be remembered that these are ''representations'', not the genuine thing. No character can get a guaranteed rating from affecting, creating, or destroying a "real world" within fiction. '''Real worlds will not be assumed to be higher-hierarchal layers or anything beyond (i.e. Tier High 1-A structures) unless there's proof a verse treats it like that'''.
**4th Wall Breaking feats shouldn't be used as proof for higher-hierarchal real worlds or anything of the sort either. They fall strictly under this page's idea consistently and do not amount to proving anything like a transcendence over a verse either.
**There are many other fictional universes where the real world is treated as just another universe in the fictional cosmology. This wouldn't give any specific higher-hierarchal upgrades either.
*Author Avatars don't guarantee any specific tiering either. Much like inhabitants of the real world, they are meant to just be representations of the author without many special attributes. There are three particularly notable instances of this amongst many others. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFzDEySeYdY Stan Lee appears consistently in the Marvel Cinematic Universe films], but he only makes cameos to reference the amount of time and dedication he put into Marvel Comics. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt59UP_MpjU&start=306 The developers from Chrono Trigger appear in a secret ending], but they are mostly used for gags about being overworked and tired. [[Rohan Kishibe]] is supposed to represent Hirohiko Araki as an in-universe mangaka version of himself, but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gALpKoFDtOM it hasn't granted him necessarily anything special]. The basic idea is that this position doesn't guarantee a rating by itself.
**By extension, characters who can "kill" Author Avatars don't get a quantifiable rating from that alone. Doing so would violate how we handle [[Misleading Titles|misleading titles]] as Author Avatars do not necessarily reach a higher-hierarchy or beyond rating from position alone as we've established above. In many cases the author avatar could just be a regular human in the verse.
*Viewing the setting of a franchise as fiction is not enough to constitute a real world level. For example, a character in a higher layer can perceive the setting of a multiverse as beneath them while still not being transcendent to the highest degree as other higher layers will exist. Such an idea would need proof as it can be accomplished even by merely being a higher-hierarchal fiction. A similar idea can even apply to aforementioned 4th Wall Breaking characters too.
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Important Pages The Codex Wiki - Site FAQ - General Help Page- Tiering System - Civilization Tiering System - Pseudo-Tiering System - Rules for Codex Profiles - Common Editing Mistakes - Disclaimer - How to Handle Calculations - Calculation Pages - Universe - Multiverse - Omniverse - Projectile and Objects Feats - Dimensional Tiering Explanation - Common Terminology - Discussion Rules - Reference for Common Feats - Rules for Acceptable Profiles - Rules for Fanon Profiles - Misleading Titles - Mistranslations - Translations - Calculation Usage - Outside Wiki Standards - Statements - Verse Cosmology Categorizations - Fictional Universes
Terminology Alignment - Status - Protection Level - Threat Level - Potential - Legacy - Influence - Cardinality - Grade - Dimensionality - Attack Potency - Durability - Speed - Reactions - Lifting Strength - Striking Strength - Range - Intelligence - Knowledge - Powers and Techniques - State of Being - Physiology - Equipment - No Limits Fallacy - Omnipotence - Cinematic Time - Canon - Crossover - How to Handle Canon - Multipliers - Environmental Destruction - Bloodlust - Overtime Feats - Chain Reactions -Outside Help - Space - The Kardashev Scale - Infinity - Power Source - Light Speed - Requirements for Speed of Light/Faster Than Light Speeds
Standards Transcendence - Creation vs Destruction - Outlier - Ludonarrative Dissonance - Inconsistency - Plot-Induced Stupidity - Reality - Fiction Interaction - Powerscaling - Black Hole - Wormhole - Stabilization Feats - Merging Feats - Embodying Feats - Data World Standards - Dream World Standards - Standard Battle Assumptions - One-Shot - Speed Blitz - Penetration Damage - Blunt Force Damage - Death of the Author - Versus Threads - Information Pages - Light Dodging Feats - Lightning Standards - Void Standards
Formats Standard Format for Character Profiles - Standard Format for Factions - Standard Format for Cosmic Forces - Standard Format for Events - Standard Format for Verse Pages - Standard Format for Locations Profiles - Standard Format for Weapon Profiles - Standard Format for Powers and Abilities - Standard Format for Civilization Profiles - Standard Format for Category Names - Standard Templates For Tabbers
Fanon Fanon - Strongest Character Tier List - Weakest Character Tier List - Fanon/Strongest Smash Characters Tier List
Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite warp the real world.

Introduction

Reality - Fiction Interaction feats are a common trope in fiction, often appearing when characters transcend the boundaries of their own worlds. This page is dedicated to explaining how such feats are evaluated and the importance of distinguishing between representations of reality and the genuine interaction with it. Characters may demonstrate interactions with what seems to be "real" worlds or realities, but these feats do not inherently lead to higher-tier rankings for the characters involved.

The Nature of Reality and Fiction

In fiction, the concept of "reality" is often portrayed as a construct within the narrative. Authors and creators may choose to represent the real world within their fictional works, but it is crucial to understand that these representations are not the same as actual reality. While it may appear that a character interacts with or affects a "real world", such actions are limited to the fictional context and do not signify true transcendence beyond the fictional realm. Fictional worlds and characters within them are bound by the rules and limitations of their creators' constructs.

Characters cannot receive a guaranteed higher-tier rating based on their ability to affect or destroy a "real world" within the fictional context. As discussed in the Sub-Reality Existence page, entities that exist in fictional or subordinate realities are confined to their respective planes. These sub-realities, such as fictional worlds, dreams, or storybooks, are perceived from the perspective of a primary reality, and interactions with them do not result in genuine transcendence. Thus, actions that involve altering, affecting, or interacting with a fictional "real world" cannot be used to elevate a character’s status to higher-dimensional or higher-tiered levels without additional context.

Fourth Wall Breaking and Author Avatars

Feats involving breaking the fourth wall or interacting with an author's avatar are often treated as a form of reality-to-fiction interaction. However, such feats should not be automatically interpreted as evidence of transcendence over the verse. While breaking the fourth wall may allow characters to acknowledge their fictional nature or address the audience, it does not imply that the characters are transcending their fictional world or reaching higher-dimensional planes of existence. Similarly, author avatars—characters that represent the creator within the fictional world—do not inherently provide a higher-tier rating.

Examples of author avatars include Stan Lee's consistent cameos in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where he appears briefly to reference his contributions to Marvel Comics, or Rohan Kishibe, who serves as an in-universe representation of Hirohiko Araki in the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series. In both cases, the characters do not gain any special powers or transcendence over the fiction they inhabit. The same logic applies to characters who "defeat" or "kill" author avatars. Such actions do not automatically indicate a transcendence over the fiction they inhabit, as the rules of their respective worlds still bind the avatars.

Additionally, the developers of Chrono Trigger make an appearance in a secret ending, but this is more of a comedic reference to their overwork than anything that impacts the power level of characters.

Fictional Realms and Hierarchies

It is important to note that merely perceiving a franchise's setting as fiction does not imply that a character exists on a higher plane of existence. For instance, a character from a higher-dimensional layer may recognize the setting of a multiverse as inferior or beneath them, but this perception alone does not grant them transcendence over the entire multiverse. The concept of "higher layers" in fiction often refers to worlds or realities that are perceived as being outside or beyond the main narrative but do not necessarily imply true transcendence. Characters may only seem to be transcendent in relation to their own fictional context.

In this sense, feats involving interactions with fictional worlds, whether through 4th wall breaking or author avatars, are still bound by the fictional constructs established within the narrative. These feats should be evaluated within the context of the fictional world and not assumed to grant a higher-tier or higher-dimensional rating without further supporting evidence.

Conclusion

The key takeaway from the evaluation of reality-to-fiction interaction feats is that they do not inherently lead to a higher-tier status for characters. While characters may interact with their worlds or break the fourth wall, these actions are limited by the context of the narrative and the rules established by the creators. As explained in the Sub-Reality Existence page, entities within subordinate planes, such as fictional worlds, are confined to their respective realities unless they possess abilities to transcend their boundaries. Therefore, reality-to-fiction interactions should not be viewed as proof of transcendence but rather as narrative devices that serve the story's progression.