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|[[Alignment]] - [[Status]] - [[Dimensionality]] - [[Attack Potency]] - [[Durability]] - [[Speed]] - [[Reactions]] - [[Lifting Strength]] - [[Striking Strength]] - [[Range]] - [[Intelligence]] - [[ | |[[Alignment]] - [[Status]] - [[Protection Level]] - [[Threat Level]] - [[Cardinality]] - [[Grade]] - [[Dimensionality]] - [[Attack Potency]] - [[Durability]] - [[Speed]] - [[Reactions]] - [[Lifting Strength]] - [[Striking Strength]] - [[Range]] - [[Intelligence]] - [[Knowledge]] - [[Powers and Techniques]] - [[State of Being]] - [[Physiology]] - [[Equipment]] - [[No Limits Fallacy]] - [[Omnipotence]] - [[Cinematic Time]] - [[Canon]] - [[Canon|Crossover]] - [[How to Handle Canon]] - [[Multipliers]] - [[Environmental Destruction]] - [[Bloodlust]] - [[Overtime Feats]] - [[Chain Reactions]] -[[Outside Help]] - [[Space]] - [[The Kardashev Scale]] - [[Infinity]] - [[Power Source]] - [[Light Speed]] - [[Requirements for Speed of Light/Faster Than Light Speeds]] | ||
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|[[Standard Format for Character Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Factions]] - [[Standard Format for Cosmic Forces]] - [[Standard Format for Verse Pages]] - [[Standard Format for Locations Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Weapon Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Powers and Abilities]] - [[Standard Format for Civilization Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Category Names]] - [[Standard Templates For Tabbers]] | |[[Standard Format for Character Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Factions]] - [[Standard Format for Cosmic Forces]] - [[Standard Format for Events]] - [[Standard Format for Verse Pages]] - [[Standard Format for Locations Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Weapon Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Powers and Abilities]] - [[Standard Format for Civilization Profiles]] - [[Standard Format for Category Names]] - [[Standard Templates For Tabbers]] | ||
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[[File:Truth_FMA.jpg|thumb|center|600px|Truth (Full Metal Alchemist) is both One-In-All and All-In-One as he embodies absolutely everything.]] | [[File:Truth_FMA.jpg|thumb|center|600px|Truth (Full Metal Alchemist) is both One-In-All and All-In-One as he embodies absolutely everything.]] | ||
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'''Embodying Feats''' are feats that come from one embodying a structure of varying size, normally dealing with ones that embody cosmological structures. The idea is that if one is one with the object then they must by proxy have the '''[[Attack Potency]]''' of the object they embody, for example, someone being '''Multiverse level''' for embodying a countless sized multiverse. | '''Embodying Feats''' are feats that come from one embodying a structure of varying size, normally dealing with ones that embody cosmological structures. The idea is that if one is one with the object then they must by proxy have the '''[[Attack Potency]]''' of the object they embody, for example, someone being '''Multiverse level''' for embodying a countless sized multiverse. | ||
However, not all embodying feats are valid for '''[[Attack Potency]]'''. The accepted idea on this wiki of embodying feats are that they grant [[ | However, not all embodying feats are valid for '''[[Attack Potency]]'''. The accepted idea on this wiki of embodying feats are that they grant [[Powers and Techniques]]/[[State of Being]]. In order to be regular [[Attack Potency]] that scales to one's [[Striking Strength]] and [[Durability]] the following requirements below need to be met. | ||
==Embodying Feat Rules== | ==Embodying Feat Rules== | ||
*'''Requirement 1:''' The embodying needs to be directly explained and specified. This is to better understand the general scale as to what one can do when they've embodied the structure. | *'''Requirement 1:''' The embodying needs to be directly explained and specified. This is to better understand the general scale as to what one can do when they've embodied the structure. | ||
*'''Requirement 2:''' Demonstrate how a character's embodying either scales to [[Attack Potency]] or is [[Hax]]. Characters should preferably have showings that rival or show influence on a scale of comparability to that of the embodying feat. For example, [[Ness]] from [[MOTHER|MOTHER 2]] was always the universe throughout the entire game, though he is not '''2-C''' | *'''Requirement 2:''' Demonstrate how a character's embodying either scales to [[Attack Potency]] or is [[Hax]]. Characters should preferably have showings that rival or show influence on a scale of comparability to that of the embodying feat. For example, [[Ness]] from [[MOTHER|MOTHER 2]] was always the universe throughout the entire game, though he is not '''2-C'''. As he shows no real control or implication that he can affect and destroy the entire universe, along with this, only his conscious mind embodies the universe, not his physical existence. Normally the accepted idea of an embodying feat being fully accepted is that the feat is shown to have the character be able to freely create/destroy the object they embody and control it. An important note for this requirement is that merely having one's existence embody a structure isn't enough to be considered outright regular [[Attack Potency]], as one embodying it can have it be destroyed through a [[Chain Reaction]] or them embodying the structure only gives them [[Cosmic Intelligence]], [[Omnipresence]], [[Time Travel]] or [[Dimensional Travel]]. There needs to be a direct implication or showing that one embodying greatly boosted their strength to that level. | ||
*'''Requirement 3:''' There must be some kind of implciation of the level of damage or destruction the person can do as they embody a structure. An example of this that shows why it wouldn't scale is [[Omnitraxus Prime]] from [[Star Vs. The Forces of Evil]], who embodies the space-time of the multiverse yet is consistently portrayed as comparable to the regular characters in the verse who are only '''High 8-C''' to '''8-B'''. | *'''Requirement 3:''' There must be some kind of implciation of the level of damage or destruction the person can do as they embody a structure. An example of this that shows why it wouldn't scale is [[Omnitraxus Prime]] from [[Star Vs. The Forces of Evil]], who embodies the space-time of the multiverse yet is consistently portrayed as comparable to the regular characters in the verse who are only '''High 8-C''' to '''8-B'''. Along with his punches and affects not affecting reality itself. | ||
===Possible Common Problems=== | ===Possible Common Problems=== | ||
* There is absolutely no damage upgrade shown through embodying that's significant enough to reach scaling to the cosmological structure itself. | * There is absolutely no damage upgrade shown through embodying that's significant enough to reach scaling to the cosmological structure itself. | ||
*Killing the character who embodies a structure doesn't cause the structure itself to collapse, disappear or get destroyed. | *Killing the character who embodies a structure doesn't cause the structure itself to collapse, disappear or get destroyed. | ||
* The embodying may be too vague and unexplained to properly count as a feat. | * The embodying may be too vague and unexplained to properly count as a feat. | ||
* Embodying may only be tied to characters because of their existence, magical properties, or a specific link that is independent of the character's statistics. | * Embodying may only be tied to characters because of their [[State of Being|existence]], magical properties, or a specific link that is independent of the character's statistics. | ||
* There is nothing to suggest a degree of comparability between the character and the structure. | * There is nothing to suggest a degree of comparability between the character and the structure. | ||
* Statistics between a character and the embodying aren't consistent with each other. | * Statistics between a character and the embodying aren't consistent with each other. | ||
==Examples not applicable to [[Attack Potency]]== | ==Examples not applicable to [[Attack Potency]]== | ||
*[[Ness]] | *[[Ness]] [https://legendsoflocalization.com/earthbound/lost-underworld/#overlapping-the-universe exists as the conscious mind of the universe] though he doesn't have any way to effect it physically. | ||
*[[Omnitraxus Prime]] [https://starvstheforcesofevil.fandom.com/wiki/Mathmagic/Transcript embodies the multiverse], though he has been shown to [https://youtu.be/Bmvl4t9rqQI?t=32 be harmed by beings that are comparable to other characters] that are '''8-B''', along with this, his death by [[Toffee]] and when the magic collapsed do not cause the multiverse to disappear. | *[[Omnitraxus Prime]] [https://starvstheforcesofevil.fandom.com/wiki/Mathmagic/Transcript embodies the multiverse], though he has been shown to [https://youtu.be/Bmvl4t9rqQI?t=32 be harmed by beings that are comparable to other characters] that are '''8-B''', along with this, his death by [[Toffee]] and when the magic collapsed do not cause the multiverse to disappear. | ||
[[Category:Important]] | [[Category:Important]] | ||
Latest revision as of 17:02, 11 October 2024
Introduction
Embodying Feats are feats that come from one embodying a structure of varying size, normally dealing with ones that embody cosmological structures. The idea is that if one is one with the object then they must by proxy have the Attack Potency of the object they embody, for example, someone being Multiverse level for embodying a countless sized multiverse.
However, not all embodying feats are valid for Attack Potency. The accepted idea on this wiki of embodying feats are that they grant Powers and Techniques/State of Being. In order to be regular Attack Potency that scales to one's Striking Strength and Durability the following requirements below need to be met.
Embodying Feat Rules
- Requirement 1: The embodying needs to be directly explained and specified. This is to better understand the general scale as to what one can do when they've embodied the structure.
- Requirement 2: Demonstrate how a character's embodying either scales to Attack Potency or is Hax. Characters should preferably have showings that rival or show influence on a scale of comparability to that of the embodying feat. For example, Ness from MOTHER 2 was always the universe throughout the entire game, though he is not 2-C. As he shows no real control or implication that he can affect and destroy the entire universe, along with this, only his conscious mind embodies the universe, not his physical existence. Normally the accepted idea of an embodying feat being fully accepted is that the feat is shown to have the character be able to freely create/destroy the object they embody and control it. An important note for this requirement is that merely having one's existence embody a structure isn't enough to be considered outright regular Attack Potency, as one embodying it can have it be destroyed through a Chain Reaction or them embodying the structure only gives them Cosmic Intelligence, Omnipresence, Time Travel or Dimensional Travel. There needs to be a direct implication or showing that one embodying greatly boosted their strength to that level.
- Requirement 3: There must be some kind of implciation of the level of damage or destruction the person can do as they embody a structure. An example of this that shows why it wouldn't scale is Omnitraxus Prime from Star Vs. The Forces of Evil, who embodies the space-time of the multiverse yet is consistently portrayed as comparable to the regular characters in the verse who are only High 8-C to 8-B. Along with his punches and affects not affecting reality itself.
Possible Common Problems
- There is absolutely no damage upgrade shown through embodying that's significant enough to reach scaling to the cosmological structure itself.
- Killing the character who embodies a structure doesn't cause the structure itself to collapse, disappear or get destroyed.
- The embodying may be too vague and unexplained to properly count as a feat.
- Embodying may only be tied to characters because of their existence, magical properties, or a specific link that is independent of the character's statistics.
- There is nothing to suggest a degree of comparability between the character and the structure.
- Statistics between a character and the embodying aren't consistent with each other.
Examples not applicable to Attack Potency
- Ness exists as the conscious mind of the universe though he doesn't have any way to effect it physically.
- Omnitraxus Prime embodies the multiverse, though he has been shown to be harmed by beings that are comparable to other characters that are 8-B, along with this, his death by Toffee and when the magic collapsed do not cause the multiverse to disappear.
