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[[File:Timelessvoid.png|thumb|center|600px|The Batter can travel in the nothingness, a void outside of space-time]]
[[File:Timelessvoid.png|thumb|right|320px|The Batter can travel in the nothingness, a void outside of space-time]]


Timeless void feats can grant you up to one of the highest speed ratings on the system, being '''Extra-Temporal Speed'''. There are controversial applications behind this standard, however, leading to standards being necessary to assess whether or not a feat of this caliber matches the standards needed to acquire the speed rating. This article will highlight information regarding the basic functions of timeless void feats.
'''Void Feats''' can grant you up to one of the highest speed ratings on the system, going from '''Faster Than Light''' to '''Unknown: Undefinable Speed'''. There are controversial applications behind this standard, however, leading to standards being necessary to assess whether or not a feat of this caliber matches the standards needed to acquire the speed rating. This article will highlight information regarding the basic functions of timeless void feats.


==Basis==
==Basis==
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* Speed = D/T
* Speed = D/T


In a timeless void, the value of "T" would be equivalent to 0, as the flow of time in this realm would be nonexistent. Traversing such a place would be impossible for characters with finite speeds. Under the laws of the universe, movement and actions take place over a timeframe. For example, even light would cease to move in such a realm, as it moves at 299,792,458 m/s, meaning it moves that many meters over the span of a second. 
In a timeless void, the value of "T" would be equivalent to 0, as the flow of time in this realm would be nonexistent. Traversing such a place would be impossible for characters with "finite speeds", however, [https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/time/a-matter-of-time#:~:text=Part%20of%20the%20Einstein%20exhibition.,on%20your%20frame%20of%20reference. time is relative]. At the '''Speed of Light''', [https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2014/11/03/why-is-time-frozen-from-lights-perspective/ time slows down to a dead stop where space and time essentially do not exist at the speed of light itself]. Thus moving in a timeless void would grant '''Speed of Light''' if one is truly doing it through speed.
 
This, of course, can be shortened to even smaller increments, such as light moving 149,896,229 meters in half a second. However, even if the value were to get proportionally smaller, the value of t could never truly reach zero, as it would imply the speed of light would at some point not require time passage. There has been rampant confusion on how this equation can be applied due to if you did 3 meters divided by zero time, you would get a result known by mathematicians as "undefined". This would seemingly render void feats unquantifiable but there is a flaw in this line of thinking.


The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Ia_ZlUCaQ&feature=youtu.be application of limits] would show that the smaller the value of "T" gets, the closer it approaches to infinity. In simple terms, the closer you get to zero, you will reach infinity. Once you finally reach zero as well, the value will be infinity in terms of a graph. Graphs are also notable for helping us map speed as a constant. This shows us that at zero, the value will give you infinity in terms of the speed equation made graphically for comprehension. It should be noted that this logic cannot be applied to our earlier example of the speed of light, as mentioned that you cannot reach zero, as it would be illogical to how proportions work.
For true voids, one's that are essentially areas made before the creation of the universe, or lack everything, and are true "spaces" of nothingness, this would grant '''[[Timeless Physiology]]''', as this means a character does not require time whatsoever to act.


==Requirements==
==Requirements==
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* '''Type 1''': '''"False" Voids''': Voids that supposedly lack time but are completely contradicted to be such.  
* '''Type 1''': '''"False" Voids''': Voids that supposedly lack time but are completely contradicted to be such.  
**Examples: The World of Void in Dragon Ball Super, the Twilight Cage in Archie Comic's Sonic the Hedgehog, and the Realm of Darkness in [[Kingdom Hearts]].
**Examples: The World of Void in [[Dragon Ball Super]]
 
* '''Type 2''': '''Inadequate Voids''': Voids that have some properties of being timeless, but sometimes it is not enough to warrant Extra-Temporal speed. Normally this warrants discussion, along with supporting feats of characters in question having other '''Instantaneous''' or '''Extra-Temporal''' feats in order to be fully accepted.
**Examples: The Demon Realm in Dragon Ball Heroes, The Void of the Evil Realm in [[The Legend of Zelda]].


* '''Type 3''': '''"True" Voids''': Voids that are stated to be timeless and are explicitly shown to be such. They have many properties that would come with timelessness to the extent that it is undeniable they would qualify for '''Extra-Temporal speed'''.  
* '''Type 2''': '''"Timeless" Voids''': Voids that are stated to be timeless and are explicitly shown to be such. They have many properties that would come with timelessness to the extent that it is undeniable they would qualify for either '''Speed of Light''' speed depending on the interpretation. As movement within 0 time is akin to the ideas that movement at the speed of light essentially has no time pass from perspective.
**Examples: The Nothingness from [[OFF]], the Other World in [[Misao]].
**Examples: The Dark Space from [[Misao]], The Nothingness from [[OFF]]


==Assigning A Speed==
* '''Type 3''': '''"True" Voids''': Voids that are true voids, they lack any true form of existence, not only being timeless, but lacking anything. These are normally realms that exist before the creation of the universe or realms outside of the universe. Essentially this is [[Personal Nonexistence]]. Moving in this state would grant someone [[Timeless Physiology]] as they show a complete lack of anything needed in order to traverse within voids.
The speed tier given for moving within a timeless void is '''Extra-Temporal''' as you are moving in anywhere in 0 seconds as opposed to '''Instataneous''' where you are moving anywhere in an infinitesimal amount of a seconds.  
**Examples: Rift Between Time in [[Sailor Moon (Series)|Sailor Moon]], The Void of the Evil Realm in [[The Legend of Zelda]]


==See also==
==See also==
* [[Speed]]
* [[Speed]]
* [[Higher-Dimensional Manipulation]]
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The Batter can travel in the nothingness, a void outside of space-time

Void Feats can grant you up to one of the highest speed ratings on the system, going from Faster Than Light to Unknown: Undefinable Speed. There are controversial applications behind this standard, however, leading to standards being necessary to assess whether or not a feat of this caliber matches the standards needed to acquire the speed rating. This article will highlight information regarding the basic functions of timeless void feats.

Basis

When determining a character's speed, the formula used is the following:

  • Speed = D/T

In a timeless void, the value of "T" would be equivalent to 0, as the flow of time in this realm would be nonexistent. Traversing such a place would be impossible for characters with "finite speeds", however, time is relative. At the Speed of Light, time slows down to a dead stop where space and time essentially do not exist at the speed of light itself. Thus moving in a timeless void would grant Speed of Light if one is truly doing it through speed.

For true voids, one's that are essentially areas made before the creation of the universe, or lack everything, and are true "spaces" of nothingness, this would grant Timeless Physiology, as this means a character does not require time whatsoever to act.

Requirements

Most series do not acknowledge such a feat as something that would take an infinite amount of speed to accomplish, and it's constantly portrayed as a one-off action occurring for the sake of the plot. In that case, the feat is to be discarded as an Outlier or a Plot-Induced Stupidity.

In order for any given series to be upgraded based on these feats, their universe should meet, at minimum, a few of these criteria:

  • The realm should be consistently and reliably described as timeless by knowledgeable characters who can be confirmed not to be lying or bluffing.
  • The realm should display characteristics a realm without time would be expected to have, such as the lack of a visible passage of time, unless this is Cinematic Time.
  • Although not necessary per se, and not entirely accurate either, the characters who traverse it being described as "outside of space-time" or "outside of time" would be supporting evidence.

A simple way to look at it is to divide each one of the timeless realms in fiction in "Types":

  • Type 1: "False" Voids: Voids that supposedly lack time but are completely contradicted to be such.
  • Type 2: "Timeless" Voids: Voids that are stated to be timeless and are explicitly shown to be such. They have many properties that would come with timelessness to the extent that it is undeniable they would qualify for either Speed of Light speed depending on the interpretation. As movement within 0 time is akin to the ideas that movement at the speed of light essentially has no time pass from perspective.
    • Examples: The Dark Space from Misao, The Nothingness from OFF
  • Type 3: "True" Voids: Voids that are true voids, they lack any true form of existence, not only being timeless, but lacking anything. These are normally realms that exist before the creation of the universe or realms outside of the universe. Essentially this is Personal Nonexistence. Moving in this state would grant someone Timeless Physiology as they show a complete lack of anything needed in order to traverse within voids.

See also