| '''[[Attack Potency]]:''' '''Athelete level''' (Casually grabbed and threw an adult woman by their neck<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 3 "Return" ""I won't have you running out on your own and ruining things. Stay right here." His stare affixed on Ohara, Isma moved toward her, a step at a time.<br>"I don't take orders from you!" As she spoke, Isma's large, bony hands grabbed her by the back of the neck. Ohara's eyes opened wide.<br>"Just what do you think you can do on your own? True, we don't know for sure that Loki is dead. But even if I let you continue to play with the summoning program, with your limited computer knowledge, you'd only end up getting killed by Set!" As he admonished her, Isma threw Ohara to the floor like so much useless rubbish.<br>Crawling on the carpet, Ohara glared up at Isma, her eyes full of humiliation and bewilderment, the white nape of her neck marred with reddish-black marks from his fingers. Acting like nothing had happened, Isma turned and continued to speak to Shimazaki."</ref>), '''Universe level''' with Seth (Gained powers from his contract with Seth<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City] Chapter 5 "He Who Calls" "Isma was convinced that something was Yumiko. Most likely, the high concentration of biological Magnetite within her body had been a major player in creating the magnetic field for summoning. The divine constitution she had inherited from Izanami was nothing but a giant retention of highly concentrated Magnetite. While meager in comparison to that of Yumiko, ordinary humans also held some biological Magnetite. If enough of it was collected, it might be able to create a permanent overlap of the Atziluth and Assiah worlds.<br>Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went. "</ref>, whose power surpasses Loki's<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City\ Chapter 3 "Quickening" "The underground storage room seemed somewhat smaller now with the huge supercomputer installed there. Isma had been making large improvements in the demon summoning program Ohara had stolen. Of course, he also had the skills of the software engineers under Shimazaki's control at his beck and call. Still, materializing the "digital" Set had proven to be more difficult than expected.<br>"Saint, how is it going? Has there been any progress?" Shimazaki's voice sounded somewhat impatient.<br>"This program has too many defects in it! Summoning a demon is a two step process; first you need to create a magnetic field in which to call it forth, and then you can help give it form. However, this program completes the process in a confusing and complicated way!"<br>"But wasn't the demon called Loki able to take a body using that program?"<br>"Set is a lot more powerful than Loki. The amount of data that needs to be processed is gigantic in comparison. Furthermore, if you try to run the program straight-up, low-ranking demons get their data mixed up with Set’s, making it even more difficult to give him a form. I'm trying to add my own improvements to handle the data more efficiently, but it's not enough to give Set a body yet. Anyhow, to start with, I'm going to try to separate and materialize those low-ranking demons first.""</ref>. Set is a powerful god, which all powerful and god level demons sustain a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon that is sustained by said demon and destroyed upon their death<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/return-chapter-1.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City] Chapter 4 "Quickening" "I don't think so. From what I've just seen, there's no mistake that a magnetic field suitable for summoning a demon was set up. It may be that the reason no demon appeared was that it might have arrived in the Assiah world via a different magnetic field."<br>"There’re still some details about the mechanism for demon summoning that I don't really understand yet."<br>"Unusual words, coming from the genius that was the first to successfully summon a demon via a computer." Feed grinned broadly, but his expression soon turned grave as he looked directly at Nakajima.<br>"The last demon to appear called himself Set, correct?"<br>"Yes, that's right."<br>"While it's too dangerous to try and conjecture the state of affairs in the demon world based on our own knowledge of this one, my theory is that the demon world is like a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon. Most likely, with Loki's death, the mini-universe in contact with Japan or Tokyo vanished, and Set's mini-universe entered to take its place. Demon summoning is just opening a contact point between the two worlds at the same time."<br>"So what would happen if two contact points were opened at the same time?"<br>"The demon would decide where it wanted to appear. However, there are some examples in medieval records of demon summonings that report that when the difference in strength of the two magnetic fields was great enough, the demon would be pulled to the stronger field, regardless of which it wanted to go to..."</ref>. Demons such as Morax [https://youtu.be/DBcnBEyAp1c?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=517 created] [https://youtu.be/JFbJuVsI3WU?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=781 and rules over his own realm] [https://youtu.be/DBcnBEyAp1c?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=1580 and controlled the sector], [https://youtu.be/DBcnBEyAp1c?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=828 being noted] [https://youtu.be/DBcnBEyAp1c?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=544 to be the energy source] [https://youtu.be/VMJCaN4nv3E?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2201 they were looking for], [https://youtu.be/VMJCaN4nv3E?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2445 said energy source is noted to control the entire sector], [https://youtu.be/VMJCaN4nv3E?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2374 and be linked to the sector like a magnet]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2279&v=VMJCaN4nv3E&feature=youtu.be Each sector is a space-time plane layered atop each other], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJCaN4nv3E&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2212s being planes outside of the human worlds local space-time existing in a quantum tunnel], [https://youtu.be/KHbrN8kIyq0?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=946 along with being noted as parallel universes] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbrN8kIyq0&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=2173s and other] [https://imgur.com/a/iAwBHgJ dimensions overlapping being isolated in time and space by enormous power] [https://youtu.be/JFbJuVsI3WU?list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=764 being connected by quantum tunnels]). '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1410 Observation can be used to massively amplify one's stats, such as when the early game] ''Shin Megami Tensei 1'' protagonist was amplified to be able to fight with all the other end game protagonists and fight Stephen. [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1862 With it's power being noted by Stephen to give humans the potential to exceed the] Axiom) & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] ([https://imgur.com/a/MBUN2th A characters willpower in SMT allows them to increase greatly in strength allowing them to harm enemies they couldn't even scratch before and survive attacks that would have originally kill them], [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=2272 the will of one's friends and allies around them can invigorate one to become far more powerful then before]) | '''Universe level''' (Merged with the demon Typhoon, could easily harm and nearly killed [[Akemi Nakajima]] with the Hinokagutsuchi if it wasn't for Narukawa awakening Tsukuyomi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 2 "Conflicts" "Isma's body appeared to float in the air as he laughed, and two unusual lights appeared by his feet. Covered in jet-black scales, the great black serpent Typhon stared at Nakajima with its golden eyes, Isma riding on its back, as it slowly rose into the air, towering like an enormous tree. With its head nearly extended to the full height of the tower of flesh, the huge serpent shuddered and assaulted Nakajima. The lower half of Isma's body had been fused into Typhon's; perhaps it was another sort of fusion the demon could do in addition to its innate ability to absorb the earth and the air into its own body.<br>The sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi could do nothing against Typhon's rigid scales. Nakajima had no choice but to flee, pursued by Isma's loud laughter.<br>"You must have been quite lucky to have been able to defeat Loki like that! Stop struggling and become the next sacrifice!"<br>Feed, realizing the gravity of the situation, whispered something to Narukawa as he handed over his pistol.<br>"Whatever you're planning, it won't work, Charles!" Isma cried from atop the serpent's head. "I'll eat you right after Nakajima!"<br>Kerberos jumped in to attack from the side, but Typhon's whip-like tail knocked him away like a rubber ball.<br>"Die, Nakajima!"<br>Holding the Smith & Wesson with both hands in a firing stance and aiming it at Typhon's gaping red maw as it attacked, Narukawa pulled the trigger.<br>For an instant, the great serpent stopped, discomforted. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Nakajima leapt up and plunged the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi into one of its golden eyes.<br>GYAAAH!<br>Crying out, Typhon whipped and spasmed. Sword and all, Nakajima was thrown aside, but Kerberos leaped into the air and caught him. Right then, Nakajima got the sense that he heard Yumiko's voice from far away. Looking around in confusion, the image of Yumiko, bound to a cross and writhing in agony, appeared in his mind. Most likely, Set had sent him the picture of her current state as the core of his enormous protoplasmic temporary body. Nakjima noticed that one of the eyes in her lovely, terrified face was dripping blood.<br>"Hah, hah, hah! Brave young man, do not forget that Yumiko is Set's prisoner!"<br>Don't listen to him! The demons need my body! They would never kill me! Yumiko's voice cried out in Nakajima's mind, encouraging him.<br>Isma's laughing voice penetrated Nakajima's ears. "Indeed. The girl is needed to fuse this world and the demon world together. However, even if we cannot kill her, we can still torture her with unimaginable pain."<br>It was hard for Nakajima to withstand the awful sense of guilt and self-reproach he felt seeing Yumiko frantically try to withstand the agony. Yumiko's remaining eye started to fill with tears of blood.<br>"Stop it!" Unable to stand it any longer, Nakajima cast aside the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi and dropped to his knees.<br>"Nakajima, wake up! You can't listen to them! If you give in, what will happen to this country? What will happen to the world?"<br>Narukawa listened as Feed yelled his lungs out. Overwhelmed, Narukawa punched the ground.<br>This sort of thing has happened before!<br>Try as he might, Narukawa could not shake off an overwhelming sense of déjà vu.<br>I must have some sort of power. Some sort of power to save that boy! Someone--kami or buddha, I don't care--please awaken my power! That power will surely reveal my connection to the boy as well...!"</ref>. Akemi with the Hinokagutsuchi easily defeated Loki<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Sword of Flame, Chapter 5, Pages 59-60 ""Is this really what Izanami wants...?" Nakajima's palms started sweating with worry.<br>His last-ditch attempt at doing anything by knocking the spheres together produced fireworks that lit the pomade in the room. With a large roar, the flames leapt up and formed a circle in the air. In the center of the pale orange flames, the shape of a human's face formed, and flickered with purpose.<br>Hi-no-Kagutsuchi...<br>It was the god of fire, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi, whom Izanami gave birth to right before she first died. Even though he had not been taught that name by anyone, Nakajima somehow knew it. Instinctively, Nakajima extended his right hand into the flames hovering into the air. Air swirling like a whirlwind, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi's flames painted a spiral shape in the air as they coiled around Nakajima's outstretched hand.<br>Nakajima bit down on his lip and tried to withstand the heat. His skin did not feel like it was being scorched by flames. Instead, it felt as if the flesh and bone making contact with the flame was somehow boiling, giving off heat from within. His flame-enveloped arm gave off a great flash of light so blinding that even the battling Loki and Kerberos stopped for a moment.<br>Rubbing his dazzled eyes, Nakajima realized that his hand, stretched upward toward the ceiling, gripped a sword that emitted a phosphorescent, crimson glow. An overwhelming power the likes of which he had never experienced flowed throughout his body.<br>Without hesitation, Nakajima leapt out of the burial chamber. As his sword emanated its unimaginable aura, Loki's movements faltered for a moment. Not missing a beat, Kerberos bared his fangs and attacked; the instant Loki tried to brush him aside with his hand, he left his face wide open.<br>Nakajima thrust the blade forward with all his might. Reflexively, Loki let go of Izanami and tried to cover his forehead with his right hand, but Nakajima's sword clove it in two. With a feeling of heavy resistance, Nakajima’s sword sank deep into Loki's forehead.<br>"GYAAAH!"<br>Loki's cry shook the very walls of the burial pathway. Clutching his wound with his left hand, Loki staggered to his feet, the sword still embedded in his forehead. Starting from the protoplasmic mass of his lower body, the demon's bronze torso underwent a rapid transformation. With an unpleasant slimy sound, his bronze skin crumbled away. The impaled sword clattered to the ground. Loki's entire body transformed into an undefined, undulating lump.<br>Astonished at his own unexpected power, Nakajima watched as one section of the unstable mass of flesh before him started throbbing. Suddenly, as if it was a separate life of its own, a green heart broke through the protoplasmic mass and tumbled onto the floor. It started to draw a strange figure on the floor with the stream of green blood flowing behind it. As it did so, the air seemed to slightly twist in on itself, centered on the figure the heart was drawing.<br>"That is Loki! Nakajima, do not let the demon escape!"<br>Pulled back to his senses by Izanami's voice, Nakajima swiftly picked the Hi-no-Kagutsuchi sword off the floor and thrust it into the heart of Loki as it tried to escape into the warped space.<br>After an instant of silence, the heart burst like a popped balloon. The undefined mass of flesh stopped writhing.<br>Within a heartbeat, the silence was broken as Nakajima was assaulted by a rumbling roar from deep under the floor of the underground valley. Crimson stones started falling from the high, darkness-blanketed ceiling"</ref>) | | '''[[Attack Potency]]:''' '''Athlete level''' (Casually grabbed and threw an adult woman by their neck<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 3 "Return" ""I won't have you running out on your own and ruining things. Stay right here." His stare affixed on Ohara, Isma moved toward her, a step at a time.<br>"I don't take orders from you!" As she spoke, Isma's large, bony hands grabbed her by the back of the neck. Ohara's eyes opened wide.<br>"Just what do you think you can do on your own? True, we don't know for sure that Loki is dead. But even if I let you continue to play with the summoning program, with your limited computer knowledge, you'd only end up getting killed by Set!" As he admonished her, Isma threw Ohara to the floor like so much useless rubbish.<br>Crawling on the carpet, Ohara glared up at Isma, her eyes full of humiliation and bewilderment, the white nape of her neck marred with reddish-black marks from his fingers. Acting like nothing had happened, Isma turned and continued to speak to Shimazaki."</ref>), '''Star level''' with Seth (Gained powers from his contract with Seth<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City] Chapter 5 "He Who Calls" "Isma was convinced that something was Yumiko. Most likely, the high concentration of biological Magnetite within her body had been a major player in creating the magnetic field for summoning. The divine constitution she had inherited from Izanami was nothing but a giant retention of highly concentrated Magnetite. While meager in comparison to that of Yumiko, ordinary humans also held some biological Magnetite. If enough of it was collected, it might be able to create a permanent overlap of the Atziluth and Assiah worlds.<br>Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went. "</ref>, whose power surpasses Loki's<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City\ Chapter 3 "Quickening" "The underground storage room seemed somewhat smaller now with the huge supercomputer installed there. Isma had been making large improvements in the demon summoning program Ohara had stolen. Of course, he also had the skills of the software engineers under Shimazaki's control at his beck and call. Still, materializing the "digital" Set had proven to be more difficult than expected.<br>"Saint, how is it going? Has there been any progress?" Shimazaki's voice sounded somewhat impatient.<br>"This program has too many defects in it! Summoning a demon is a two step process; first you need to create a magnetic field in which to call it forth, and then you can help give it form. However, this program completes the process in a confusing and complicated way!"<br>"But wasn't the demon called Loki able to take a body using that program?"<br>"Set is a lot more powerful than Loki. The amount of data that needs to be processed is gigantic in comparison. Furthermore, if you try to run the program straight-up, low-ranking demons get their data mixed up with Set’s, making it even more difficult to give him a form. I'm trying to add my own improvements to handle the data more efficiently, but it's not enough to give Set a body yet. Anyhow, to start with, I'm going to try to separate and materialize those low-ranking demons first.""</ref>. Set is a powerful god, which all powerful and god level demons sustain a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon that is sustained by said demon and destroyed upon their death<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/return-chapter-1.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City] Chapter 4 "Quickening" "I don't think so. From what I've just seen, there's no mistake that a magnetic field suitable for summoning a demon was set up. It may be that the reason no demon appeared was that it might have arrived in the Assiah world via a different magnetic field."<br>"There’re still some details about the mechanism for demon summoning that I don't really understand yet."<br>"Unusual words, coming from the genius that was the first to successfully summon a demon via a computer." Feed grinned broadly, but his expression soon turned grave as he looked directly at Nakajima.<br>"The last demon to appear called himself Set, correct?"<br>"Yes, that's right."<br>"While it's too dangerous to try and conjecture the state of affairs in the demon world based on our own knowledge of this one, my theory is that the demon world is like a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon. Most likely, with Loki's death, the mini-universe in contact with Japan or Tokyo vanished, and Set's mini-universe entered to take its place. Demon summoning is just opening a contact point between the two worlds at the same time."<br>"So what would happen if two contact points were opened at the same time?"<br>"The demon would decide where it wanted to appear. However, there are some examples in medieval records of demon summonings that report that when the difference in strength of the two magnetic fields was great enough, the demon would be pulled to the stronger field, regardless of which it wanted to go to..."</ref>, which should put him beyond demons not considered powerful ones such as [https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tonatiuh?so=search Tonatiuh], who is an armed warrior that holds the sun on his back<ref>"The sun god of Aztec lore who is also worshipped as a war god. He is said to give warriors strength. He is often depicted as an armed warrior with the sun on his back."<br>—Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse compendium</ref> and [https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Huoniao?so=search Huoniao], who shot down nine of the ten suns falling from the sky<ref>"A three-legged bird said to live in the sun. In ancient China, there used to be 10 suns which would take turns traveling the sky. But one day, all ten suns appeared in the sky and scored the earth. A man named Hou Yi shot down nine of the suns."<Br>—Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey compendium</ref><ref>"Ancient Chinese legend has it that once there were ten suns that strode across the sky, each in succession. One day, all ten appeared at once, bringing flame to sear sky and earth alike. A hero named Hou Yi raised his bow to shoot down nine of the suns, sparing humanity and the earth. It was said that a three-legged Kau lived within each of the suns. Now, only one travels across the sky, bringing light to the world. It's sic fires burn strong enough to warm, but not to sear and scar."<br>—Devil Survivor 2 compendium</ref>). '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1410 Observation can be used to massively amplify one's stats, such as when the early game] ''Shin Megami Tensei 1'' protagonist was amplified to be able to fight with all the other end game protagonists and fight Stephen. [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1862 With it's power being noted by Stephen to give humans the potential to exceed the] Axiom) & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] ([https://imgur.com/a/MBUN2th A characters willpower in SMT allows them to increase greatly in strength allowing them to harm enemies they couldn't even scratch before and survive attacks that would have originally kill them], [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=2272 the will of one's friends and allies around them can invigorate one to become far more powerful then before]) | '''Star level''' (Merged with the demon Typhoon, could easily harm and nearly killed [[Akemi Nakajima]] with the Hinokagutsuchi if it wasn't for Narukawa awakening Tsukuyomi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 2 "Conflicts" "Isma's body appeared to float in the air as he laughed, and two unusual lights appeared by his feet. Covered in jet-black scales, the great black serpent Typhon stared at Nakajima with its golden eyes, Isma riding on its back, as it slowly rose into the air, towering like an enormous tree. With its head nearly extended to the full height of the tower of flesh, the huge serpent shuddered and assaulted Nakajima. The lower half of Isma's body had been fused into Typhon's; perhaps it was another sort of fusion the demon could do in addition to its innate ability to absorb the earth and the air into its own body.<br>The sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi could do nothing against Typhon's rigid scales. Nakajima had no choice but to flee, pursued by Isma's loud laughter.<br>"You must have been quite lucky to have been able to defeat Loki like that! Stop struggling and become the next sacrifice!"<br>Feed, realizing the gravity of the situation, whispered something to Narukawa as he handed over his pistol.<br>"Whatever you're planning, it won't work, Charles!" Isma cried from atop the serpent's head. "I'll eat you right after Nakajima!"<br>Kerberos jumped in to attack from the side, but Typhon's whip-like tail knocked him away like a rubber ball.<br>"Die, Nakajima!"<br>Holding the Smith & Wesson with both hands in a firing stance and aiming it at Typhon's gaping red maw as it attacked, Narukawa pulled the trigger.<br>For an instant, the great serpent stopped, discomforted. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Nakajima leapt up and plunged the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi into one of its golden eyes.<br>GYAAAH!<br>Crying out, Typhon whipped and spasmed. Sword and all, Nakajima was thrown aside, but Kerberos leaped into the air and caught him. Right then, Nakajima got the sense that he heard Yumiko's voice from far away. Looking around in confusion, the image of Yumiko, bound to a cross and writhing in agony, appeared in his mind. Most likely, Set had sent him the picture of her current state as the core of his enormous protoplasmic temporary body. Nakjima noticed that one of the eyes in her lovely, terrified face was dripping blood.<br>"Hah, hah, hah! Brave young man, do not forget that Yumiko is Set's prisoner!"<br>Don't listen to him! The demons need my body! They would never kill me! Yumiko's voice cried out in Nakajima's mind, encouraging him.<br>Isma's laughing voice penetrated Nakajima's ears. "Indeed. The girl is needed to fuse this world and the demon world together. However, even if we cannot kill her, we can still torture her with unimaginable pain."<br>It was hard for Nakajima to withstand the awful sense of guilt and self-reproach he felt seeing Yumiko frantically try to withstand the agony. Yumiko's remaining eye started to fill with tears of blood.<br>"Stop it!" Unable to stand it any longer, Nakajima cast aside the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi and dropped to his knees.<br>"Nakajima, wake up! You can't listen to them! If you give in, what will happen to this country? What will happen to the world?"<br>Narukawa listened as Feed yelled his lungs out. Overwhelmed, Narukawa punched the ground.<br>This sort of thing has happened before!<br>Try as he might, Narukawa could not shake off an overwhelming sense of déjà vu.<br>I must have some sort of power. Some sort of power to save that boy! Someone--kami or buddha, I don't care--please awaken my power! That power will surely reveal my connection to the boy as well...!"</ref>. Akemi with the Hinokagutsuchi easily defeated Loki<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Sword of Flame, Chapter 5, Pages 59-60 ""Is this really what Izanami wants...?" Nakajima's palms started sweating with worry.<br>His last-ditch attempt at doing anything by knocking the spheres together produced fireworks that lit the pomade in the room. With a large roar, the flames leapt up and formed a circle in the air. In the center of the pale orange flames, the shape of a human's face formed, and flickered with purpose.<br>Hi-no-Kagutsuchi...<br>It was the god of fire, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi, whom Izanami gave birth to right before she first died. Even though he had not been taught that name by anyone, Nakajima somehow knew it. Instinctively, Nakajima extended his right hand into the flames hovering into the air. Air swirling like a whirlwind, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi's flames painted a spiral shape in the air as they coiled around Nakajima's outstretched hand.<br>Nakajima bit down on his lip and tried to withstand the heat. His skin did not feel like it was being scorched by flames. Instead, it felt as if the flesh and bone making contact with the flame was somehow boiling, giving off heat from within. His flame-enveloped arm gave off a great flash of light so blinding that even the battling Loki and Kerberos stopped for a moment.<br>Rubbing his dazzled eyes, Nakajima realized that his hand, stretched upward toward the ceiling, gripped a sword that emitted a phosphorescent, crimson glow. An overwhelming power the likes of which he had never experienced flowed throughout his body.<br>Without hesitation, Nakajima leapt out of the burial chamber. As his sword emanated its unimaginable aura, Loki's movements faltered for a moment. Not missing a beat, Kerberos bared his fangs and attacked; the instant Loki tried to brush him aside with his hand, he left his face wide open.<br>Nakajima thrust the blade forward with all his might. Reflexively, Loki let go of Izanami and tried to cover his forehead with his right hand, but Nakajima's sword clove it in two. With a feeling of heavy resistance, Nakajima’s sword sank deep into Loki's forehead.<br>"GYAAAH!"<br>Loki's cry shook the very walls of the burial pathway. Clutching his wound with his left hand, Loki staggered to his feet, the sword still embedded in his forehead. Starting from the protoplasmic mass of his lower body, the demon's bronze torso underwent a rapid transformation. With an unpleasant slimy sound, his bronze skin crumbled away. The impaled sword clattered to the ground. Loki's entire body transformed into an undefined, undulating lump.<br>Astonished at his own unexpected power, Nakajima watched as one section of the unstable mass of flesh before him started throbbing. Suddenly, as if it was a separate life of its own, a green heart broke through the protoplasmic mass and tumbled onto the floor. It started to draw a strange figure on the floor with the stream of green blood flowing behind it. As it did so, the air seemed to slightly twist in on itself, centered on the figure the heart was drawing.<br>"That is Loki! Nakajima, do not let the demon escape!"<br>Pulled back to his senses by Izanami's voice, Nakajima swiftly picked the Hi-no-Kagutsuchi sword off the floor and thrust it into the heart of Loki as it tried to escape into the warped space.<br>After an instant of silence, the heart burst like a popped balloon. The undefined mass of flesh stopped writhing.<br>Within a heartbeat, the silence was broken as Nakajima was assaulted by a rumbling roar from deep under the floor of the underground valley. Crimson stones started falling from the high, darkness-blanketed ceiling"</ref>) |
| '''[[Durability]]:''' '''Athelete level''' | '''Universe level''' (Akemi could not harm him with the Hinokagutsuchi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 2 "Conflicts" "Isma's body appeared to float in the air as he laughed, and two unusual lights appeared by his feet. Covered in jet-black scales, the great black serpent Typhon stared at Nakajima with its golden eyes, Isma riding on its back, as it slowly rose into the air, towering like an enormous tree. With its head nearly extended to the full height of the tower of flesh, the huge serpent shuddered and assaulted Nakajima. The lower half of Isma's body had been fused into Typhon's; perhaps it was another sort of fusion the demon could do in addition to its innate ability to absorb the earth and the air into its own body.<br>The sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi could do nothing against Typhon's rigid scales. Nakajima had no choice but to flee, pursued by Isma's loud laughter.<br>"You must have been quite lucky to have been able to defeat Loki like that! Stop struggling and become the next sacrifice!"<br>Feed, realizing the gravity of the situation, whispered something to Narukawa as he handed over his pistol.<br>"Whatever you're planning, it won't work, Charles!" Isma cried from atop the serpent's head. "I'll eat you right after Nakajima!"<br>Kerberos jumped in to attack from the side, but Typhon's whip-like tail knocked him away like a rubber ball.<br>"Die, Nakajima!"<br>Holding the Smith & Wesson with both hands in a firing stance and aiming it at Typhon's gaping red maw as it attacked, Narukawa pulled the trigger.<br>For an instant, the great serpent stopped, discomforted. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Nakajima leapt up and plunged the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi into one of its golden eyes.<br>GYAAAH!<br>Crying out, Typhon whipped and spasmed. Sword and all, Nakajima was thrown aside, but Kerberos leaped into the air and caught him. Right then, Nakajima got the sense that he heard Yumiko's voice from far away. Looking around in confusion, the image of Yumiko, bound to a cross and writhing in agony, appeared in his mind. Most likely, Set had sent him the picture of her current state as the core of his enormous protoplasmic temporary body. Nakjima noticed that one of the eyes in her lovely, terrified face was dripping blood.<br>"Hah, hah, hah! Brave young man, do not forget that Yumiko is Set's prisoner!"<br>Don't listen to him! The demons need my body! They would never kill me! Yumiko's voice cried out in Nakajima's mind, encouraging him.<br>Isma's laughing voice penetrated Nakajima's ears. "Indeed. The girl is needed to fuse this world and the demon world together. However, even if we cannot kill her, we can still torture her with unimaginable pain."<br>It was hard for Nakajima to withstand the awful sense of guilt and self-reproach he felt seeing Yumiko frantically try to withstand the agony. Yumiko's remaining eye started to fill with tears of blood.<br>"Stop it!" Unable to stand it any longer, Nakajima cast aside the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi and dropped to his knees.<br>"Nakajima, wake up! You can't listen to them! If you give in, what will happen to this country? What will happen to the world?"<br>Narukawa listened as Feed yelled his lungs out. Overwhelmed, Narukawa punched the ground.<br>This sort of thing has happened before!<br>Try as he might, Narukawa could not shake off an overwhelming sense of déjà vu.<br>I must have some sort of power. Some sort of power to save that boy! Someone--kami or buddha, I don't care--please awaken my power! That power will surely reveal my connection to the boy as well...!"</ref>), [[Demon Physiology]] makes him extremely difficult to kill | | '''[[Durability]]:''' '''Athlete level''' | '''Star level''' (Akemi could not harm him with the Hinokagutsuchi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 2 "Conflicts" "Isma's body appeared to float in the air as he laughed, and two unusual lights appeared by his feet. Covered in jet-black scales, the great black serpent Typhon stared at Nakajima with its golden eyes, Isma riding on its back, as it slowly rose into the air, towering like an enormous tree. With its head nearly extended to the full height of the tower of flesh, the huge serpent shuddered and assaulted Nakajima. The lower half of Isma's body had been fused into Typhon's; perhaps it was another sort of fusion the demon could do in addition to its innate ability to absorb the earth and the air into its own body.<br>The sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi could do nothing against Typhon's rigid scales. Nakajima had no choice but to flee, pursued by Isma's loud laughter.<br>"You must have been quite lucky to have been able to defeat Loki like that! Stop struggling and become the next sacrifice!"<br>Feed, realizing the gravity of the situation, whispered something to Narukawa as he handed over his pistol.<br>"Whatever you're planning, it won't work, Charles!" Isma cried from atop the serpent's head. "I'll eat you right after Nakajima!"<br>Kerberos jumped in to attack from the side, but Typhon's whip-like tail knocked him away like a rubber ball.<br>"Die, Nakajima!"<br>Holding the Smith & Wesson with both hands in a firing stance and aiming it at Typhon's gaping red maw as it attacked, Narukawa pulled the trigger.<br>For an instant, the great serpent stopped, discomforted. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Nakajima leapt up and plunged the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi into one of its golden eyes.<br>GYAAAH!<br>Crying out, Typhon whipped and spasmed. Sword and all, Nakajima was thrown aside, but Kerberos leaped into the air and caught him. Right then, Nakajima got the sense that he heard Yumiko's voice from far away. Looking around in confusion, the image of Yumiko, bound to a cross and writhing in agony, appeared in his mind. Most likely, Set had sent him the picture of her current state as the core of his enormous protoplasmic temporary body. Nakjima noticed that one of the eyes in her lovely, terrified face was dripping blood.<br>"Hah, hah, hah! Brave young man, do not forget that Yumiko is Set's prisoner!"<br>Don't listen to him! The demons need my body! They would never kill me! Yumiko's voice cried out in Nakajima's mind, encouraging him.<br>Isma's laughing voice penetrated Nakajima's ears. "Indeed. The girl is needed to fuse this world and the demon world together. However, even if we cannot kill her, we can still torture her with unimaginable pain."<br>It was hard for Nakajima to withstand the awful sense of guilt and self-reproach he felt seeing Yumiko frantically try to withstand the agony. Yumiko's remaining eye started to fill with tears of blood.<br>"Stop it!" Unable to stand it any longer, Nakajima cast aside the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi and dropped to his knees.<br>"Nakajima, wake up! You can't listen to them! If you give in, what will happen to this country? What will happen to the world?"<br>Narukawa listened as Feed yelled his lungs out. Overwhelmed, Narukawa punched the ground.<br>This sort of thing has happened before!<br>Try as he might, Narukawa could not shake off an overwhelming sense of déjà vu.<br>I must have some sort of power. Some sort of power to save that boy! Someone--kami or buddha, I don't care--please awaken my power! That power will surely reveal my connection to the boy as well...!"</ref>), [[Demon Physiology]] makes him extremely difficult to kill |
| '''[[Range]]:''' '''Standard Melee Range''', '''Kilometers''' with [[Mind Manipulation]] (Could mind control and cause over ten thousand citizens to go missing), '''Cross-Dimensional''' when merged with Typhoon ([https://imgur.com/a/lqQRrE8 Demons passively create adecoherence field, that is essentially a special dimension of quantum fluctuation that they exist in, where humans cannot see them], and can attack from there. [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=6825 Demons can also create mirage realms], [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=7150 that shroud an entire area in mist], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FV51PZ1ds&t=1802s with them being able to attack from inside said illusion without being capable of being attacked back], [https://youtu.be/p5FV51PZ1ds?t=2248 requiring the user to go inside of their illusion to fight them]), At least '''Cantorversal''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=490 Can affect beings such as] [[YHVH]] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 through their observation]. [[YHVH]] [https://imgur.com/a/eNIH9qI is the progenitor of all gods and all religions from all around the world, existing as the one true original god]. [https://imgur.com/a/AQppUyn Turned all other gods in the pantheon into demons]. [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html He is viewed as an omnipotent existence that created everything]<ref>Profile: The actual One God of monotheism. The One God praised by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He is the omnipotent existence that created heaven and earth and made man in his own image, but this also means that together with the angels, his bunrei [subparts], he also gave birth to demons. By giving humans bodies of flesh and bone, their lives and fears were repeated in the endless cycle of death and rebirth, restricting their range of observation.</ref> [https://youtu.be/sBJn2IrfER4?t=171 A single manifestation head is so far beyond all of creation that not even his creations blades can harm him]<ref>The reason YHVH is harmed during this fight is due to humanity's [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|observation]] weakening him, as there's no reason for YHVH to be lying</ref>. [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=85 YHVH is a being who created] [http://shmuplations.com/smt/ infinite universes], [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=70 and exists beyond the very boundaries of time within the multiverse]. [https://imgur.com/hBzsNkT The multiverse is] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl2ZXAZeN3Q&t=19s&ab_channel=davidramons composed of] [https://youtu.be/XvzWQt8jmTA?t=22 information and] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8oNYHRuJw&t=9995s&ab_channel=BuffMaister data], [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1477 further proven with] [[Stephen (Shin Megami Tensei)|Stephen]] having attacks that can code beings that the world, this would make SMT a mathematical multiverse falling under the [[Multiverse#Max_Tegmark's_Multiverse|level 4 multiverse]], [https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/crazy.html a multiverse where every possible mathematical structure and be described at some level], [https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/set-theory/ which would include any possible level of reality that can be conceived of using set theory]. Which would include planes such as Akarana Corridor [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=957 a void that transcends time and space], [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=886 with it requiring a special ritual to enter], where even the Herald of Yatagarasu cannot put Raidou into this place<ref>The Herald of Yatagarsu is [https://youtu.be/SJhzC5B5HGA?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=727 capable of teleporting Raidou into] The Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse] but cannot even reach this realm, along with this she [https://imgur.com/a/PxAg9xW exists a plane not apart of the human world], further showing how out of reach this plane is, [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=1043 it requires one normally to discard their human form and transcribe themselves otherwise they are threatened with being unstuck from time]</ref>, putting it beyond even The Expanse [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse]. The true form views [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=246 the multiverse and his manifestation head are infinitesimal in size compared to him], and he exists as [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=165 an incomprehensible] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=450 transcendent being overseeing everything in his creation]. [https://youtu.be/L23HK4gdQY0?t=516 His universe is a place beyond reality that is more vague and more infinite then anything the cast has seen before] [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 which includes areas such as the expanse] and Akrana Corridor, and his single manifestation head. Along with this, [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=1862 humans observation has the potential to exceed] [[The Axiom]], [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html who exists in a realm beyond every other realm prior]<Ref>Shioda: Is it correct to think that humanity was created by the Great Reason rather than by the gods?<br>Yamai: In the beginning, I believe, pure humans were made as observers of the universe. Then, as time passed, gods and polytheism appeared as the result of their perception of the surrounding world.<br>Miyata: Nozomi says at some point that it’s all right for people to be unsure, but in the underground it is believed that the gods are one of the answers hypothesised by humans. From her point of view, the gods are a symbol of the ideal imagined by humans and the perfect form envisioned by them as their target, their final point. Monotheism, on the other hand, only has one final target, but there are many ideals to pursue. This is tied to Nozomi’s lines above. It’s all right if there are bad guys and if there are good people, there will also be fickle ones. Nozomi’s credo is that everyone should choose their own destination.<br>Yamai: Even when talking about the creation of the universe, I think the birth of the Great Reason is beyond our ideals. The universe we can observe stretches over 130 billion light years, but we don’t know how it managed to appear from nothing. Gods like Izanagi, who birthed out of his eyes and nose, were perhaps a symbol of a farming culture, but they had a power that surpassed the humans’ power of understanding and I dare say that in the case of the Great Reason too, if emotions were to arise, those emotions themselves would become gods. I’m talking about that kind of creation. For example, the wish to be worshipped gave birth to [[YHVH]], or seeing the fights between humans signified the appearance of Lucifer. I think this is similar to the trends and movements born out of people’s shared consciousness nowadays. Let’s look at Japan’s concept of cuteness: if it spread throughout the whole world, maybe it would lead to the birth of a new god. I had this vague thought that the backbone of the Great Reason would begin like a pure baby who would pick up various emotions through touch, gradually learning about its surroundings.<br>Shioda: So it’s something along the lines of a god born out of the collective unconscious which came from shared awareness?<br>Yamai: That’s right, don’t you all just love it? (laughs)<br>Miyata: I certainly think there is some sort of huge collective unconscious, but I never really thought it might be connected to the Great Reason. And speaking of shared awareness, the scale would be quite small depending on the surroundings; the Japanese would have their shared awareness, but it would be different from that of foreigners. For example, even if the Japanese saw themselves as without religion, they’d look Buddhist to foreigners. This kind of thing leads me to think that the Great Reason is not at the surface of shared awareness, but belongs instead to an extremely deep part of the origin.<br>Shioda: I personally think that the term ‘bunrei’ [spirit divisions] often used to name gods in the story is extremely important in this game. The Great Reason is the origin. Does that make [[YHVH]] and all the other gods ‘bunrei’?<br>Yamai: Yes, it does. I think we can explain the existence of ‘bunrei’ through polytheism resulted from human perception. In the Celtic world, the druids saw Dagda as the forefather of sorcerers, but this was different for the Norse people or the Germanic culture. The people of each civilisation would see things as it fit them, so we got Odin instead. ‘Bunrei’ are born like this, but then again, treating Dagda and Odin as identical is wrong. Their powers and responsibilities are different, so it’s better for them to be thought of as different entities. Let’s have a look at [[YHVH]]: when he was born, humans perhaps observed [[YHVH]] himself, but once the scriptures were written, Uriel would be the one to be noticed and maybe that’s why he made so many appearances in their pages. Uriel frequently appearing as [[YHVH]]’s messenger also kind of feels like an accessory that comes to the front in order to preserve [[YHVH]]’s solemnity. But that is the result of the perception of later people, so we can also say that Uriel is a part [bunrei] of [[YHVH]].</ref>) | | '''[[Range]]:''' '''Standard Melee Range''', '''Kilometers''' with [[Mind Manipulation]] (Could mind control and cause over ten thousand citizens to go missing), '''Cross-Dimensional''' when merged with Typhoon ([https://imgur.com/a/lqQRrE8 Demons passively create adecoherence field, that is essentially a special dimension of quantum fluctuation that they exist in, where humans cannot see them], and can attack from there. [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=6825 Demons can also create mirage realms], [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=7150 that shroud an entire area in mist], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FV51PZ1ds&t=1802s with them being able to attack from inside said illusion without being capable of being attacked back], [https://youtu.be/p5FV51PZ1ds?t=2248 requiring the user to go inside of their illusion to fight them]), '''Complex Multiversal''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=490 Can affect beings such as] [[YHVH]] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 through their observation]. [https://youtu.be/L23HK4gdQY0?t=513 YHVH's own universe is more vague and more infinite then anything] [[Nanashi]] or [[Flynn (Shin Megami Tensei)|Flynn]] have ever seen<ref>Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse: YHVH's Universe Entrance</ref>, where they've seen [https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Ouroboros#Shin_Megami_Tensei_IV demons such as] Ouroboros, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spraSlJLBXc&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=404s who is the embodiment] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spraSlJLBXc&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=525s of infinity]<ref>SMT: Strange Journey REDUX - Boss: Ouroboros</ref>, putting it at least beyond [[Cardinality|ℵ1 in size]]. [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=246 With even YHVH himself noting he is infinity]<ref>Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse YHVH Boss</ref>, and he exists as [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=165 an incomprehensible] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=450 transcendent being overseeing everything in his creation]. [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html He is viewed as an omnipotent existence that created everything]<ref>Profile: The actual One God of monotheism. The One God praised by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He is the omnipotent existence that created heaven and earth and made man in his own image, but this also means that together with the angels, his bunrei [subparts], he also gave birth to demons. By giving humans bodies of flesh and bone, their lives and fears were repeated in the endless cycle of death and rebirth, restricting their range of observation.</ref> . [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=85 which would mean he created]<ref>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei II: Law Ending</ref> [http://shmuplations.com/smt/ infinite universes]<ref>([https://web.archive.org/web/20231001175136/https://shmuplations.com/smt/ Web Archive link in case link ever dies]</ref>, [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=70 and exists beyond the very boundaries of time within the multiverse]<ref>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei II: Law Ending</ref>. Which would include planes such as Akarana Corridor [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=957 a void that transcends time and space], [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=886 with it requiring a special ritual to enter], where even the Herald of Yatagarasu cannot put Raidou into this place<ref>The Herald of Yatagarsu is [https://youtu.be/SJhzC5B5HGA?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=727 capable of teleporting Raidou into] The Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse] but cannot even reach this realm, along with this she [https://imgur.com/a/PxAg9xW exists a plane not apart of the human world], further showing how out of reach this plane is, [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=1043 it requires one normally to discard their human form and transcribe themselves otherwise they are threatened with being unstuck from time]</ref>, putting it beyond even The Expanse [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse]<ref>SMT IV SIDE-Quest guide: For the Past... for the Future</ref>. Viewed as so immeasurably powerful that the combined cast of SMT IV Apocalypse, [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 needed to] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=637 deny his divine nature] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=676 and form understandings] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=853 repeatedly] through the use of [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|obseravtion]] in order to defeat him) |