| '''[[Attack Potency]]:''' '''Athlete level''' (Could wrestle with his teacher with a strength one wouldn't imagine from Akemi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Prologue, Chapter 3, Page 12 "Whispering in synch with the computer, Nakajima continued to enter commands on the keyboard with unbelievable speed. Soon the entire room started to shake from an earthquake, and cracks formed in the windows. Nakajima entered his final command.<br>> KILL: KONDO HIROYUKI, TAKAMIZAWA KYOKO<br>Iida did not like students like Kondo Hiroyuki and Takamizawa Kyoko. In fact, he hated them, but he felt even more loathing for the manner Nakajima intended to deal with them.<br>"Stop this foolishness. If you'd like, I can make sure the incident is investigated fully and have Kondo expelled. Just stop doing this."<br>Stumbling through the shaking room, Iida desperately reached for the computer's power switch. To prevent him from interfering, Nakajima grabbed his arm with a strength one wouldn't even imagine from him. While the two struggled, the rumbling started to subside. The fluorescent lights lit up with a creaking sound and illuminated the room as the freezing air surrounding Iida's body dissipated."</ref>), '''Universe level''' with Cerberus ([https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=1938 Cerberus is] [https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=2316 capable of briefly fighting off] Loki, who can create and sustain his own universe<ref>[http://ddstranslation.blogspot.com/2007/03/part-2-chapter-4.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City Part 2, Chapter 4] "The last demon to appear called himself Set, correct?" "Yes, that's right." "While it's too dangerous to try and conjecture the state of affairs in the demon world based on our own knowledge of this one, my theory is that the demon world is like a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon. Most likely, with Loki's death, the mini-universe in contact with Japan or Tokyo vanished, and Set's mini-universe entered to take its place. Demon summoning is just opening a contact point between the two worlds at the same time."</ref>). '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/_VRt9U-OeyM?t=762 Observation can be used to massively amplify one's stats, such as when the early game] ''Shin Megami Tensei 1'' protagonist was amplified to be able to fight with all the other end game protagonists and fight Stephen. [https://youtu.be/_VRt9U-OeyM?t=1086 With it's power being noted by Stephen to give humans the potential to exceed the] Axiom) & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] ([https://imgur.com/a/MBUN2th A characters willpower in SMT allows them to increase greatly in strength allowing them to harm enemies they couldn't even scratch before and survive attacks that would have originally kill them], [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=2272 the will of one's friends and allies around them can invigorate one to become far more powerful then before]) | '''Universe level''' ([https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=2276 With the Hinokagutsuchi], his entire body is empowered and capable of greatly harming and killing Loki<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Sword of Flame, Chapter 5, Pages 59-60 ""Is this really what Izanami wants...?" Nakajima's palms started sweating with worry.<br>His last-ditch attempt at doing anything by knocking the spheres together produced fireworks that lit the pomade in the room. With a large roar, the flames leapt up and formed a circle in the air. In the center of the pale orange flames, the shape of a human's face formed, and flickered with purpose.<br>Hi-no-Kagutsuchi...<br>It was the god of fire, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi, whom Izanami gave birth to right before she first died. Even though he had not been taught that name by anyone, Nakajima somehow knew it. Instinctively, Nakajima extended his right hand into the flames hovering into the air. Air swirling like a whirlwind, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi's flames painted a spiral shape in the air as they coiled around Nakajima's outstretched hand.<br>Nakajima bit down on his lip and tried to withstand the heat. His skin did not feel like it was being scorched by flames. Instead, it felt as if the flesh and bone making contact with the flame was somehow boiling, giving off heat from within. His flame-enveloped arm gave off a great flash of light so blinding that even the battling Loki and Kerberos stopped for a moment.<br>Rubbing his dazzled eyes, Nakajima realized that his hand, stretched upward toward the ceiling, gripped a sword that emitted a phosphorescent, crimson glow. An overwhelming power the likes of which he had never experienced flowed throughout his body.<br>Without hesitation, Nakajima leapt out of the burial chamber. As his sword emanated its unimaginable aura, Loki's movements faltered for a moment. Not missing a beat, Kerberos bared his fangs and attacked; the instant Loki tried to brush him aside with his hand, he left his face wide open.<br>Nakajima thrust the blade forward with all his might. Reflexively, Loki let go of Izanami and tried to cover his forehead with his right hand, but Nakajima's sword clove it in two. With a feeling of heavy resistance, Nakajima’s sword sank deep into Loki's forehead.<br>"GYAAAH!"<br>Loki's cry shook the very walls of the burial pathway. Clutching his wound with his left hand, Loki staggered to his feet, the sword still embedded in his forehead. Starting from the protoplasmic mass of his lower body, the demon's bronze torso underwent a rapid transformation. With an unpleasant slimy sound, his bronze skin crumbled away. The impaled sword clattered to the ground. Loki's entire body transformed into an undefined, undulating lump.<br>Astonished at his own unexpected power, Nakajima watched as one section of the unstable mass of flesh before him started throbbing. Suddenly, as if it was a separate life of its own, a green heart broke through the protoplasmic mass and tumbled onto the floor. It started to draw a strange figure on the floor with the stream of green blood flowing behind it. As it did so, the air seemed to slightly twist in on itself, centered on the figure the heart was drawing.<br>"That is Loki! Nakajima, do not let the demon escape!"<br>Pulled back to his senses by Izanami's voice, Nakajima swiftly picked the Hi-no-Kagutsuchi sword off the floor and thrust it into the heart of Loki as it tried to escape into the warped space.<br>After an instant of silence, the heart burst like a popped balloon. The undefined mass of flesh stopped writhing.<br>Within a heartbeat, the silence was broken as Nakajima was assaulted by a rumbling roar from deep under the floor of the underground valley. Crimson stones started falling from the high, darkness-blanketed ceiling"</ref>), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] | '''Complex Multiverse level''' (After speaking with Izanami and getting her robe, Akemi was seen as a worthy opponent to fight Set, and eventually defeated Set with the aid of Yumiko.<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 2, "To Space" "So, you really did come after all.<br>Already inside the tower of flesh, a powerful psychic wave assaulted Nakajima's mind. Trying to shake off the head-splitting pain, Nakajima slashed his sword. Surprisingly, the inside of Set's body was easily torn up by the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi.<br>What you are so gleefully cutting up are the bodies of the humans that have become a part of me. Dice them up to your heart's content.<br>Set's scornful psychic wave seemed to be almost pleased that a somewhat worthy opponent had appeared.<br>Where is Yumiko? Give her back!<br>There was no response.<br>Instead, the space in front of Nakajima suddenly opened up. With a sickening sound, boiling swamp of blood appeared. One of the sticky bubbles burst. A human hand reached out. As if on cue, one by one, naked, stooped-over humans came crawling out of the swamp, dripping with fresh blood."</ref><ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 6, "To Space" "Freed from his spatial constraints, Set could now roam through space without restraint. One moment he seemed to attack with his foul, enormous mouth, and the next instant he vanished into the vacuum, reappearing to strike with his thick, heavy tail. Dodging alone took all of Nakajima's concentration.<br>However, Set's movements appeared to be slowing. Looking closely, the minor demons had amassed at one point on the giant serpent's body, clawing at it. Now that the satellite had been destroyed, they had lost the artificially generated magnetic field and were now competing with each other to cling to Set's body in an attempt to materialize in the Assiah world. Dodging the now-slowed Set's fangs, Nakajima quickly dove beneath the body of the snake.<br>Now, Nakajima!<br>Encouraged by Yumiko's voice, Nakajima stabbed his sword into the throng of lesser demons.<br>SPLUTCH!<br>For an instant, as if time had stopped, Set's movements ceased. Like thick glass penetrated by a bullet, cracks started spreading over the scales covering the enormous serpent. The cracked were centered on the sword lodged in its trunk. After a moment of silence, Set's body shattered into tiny fragments and dispersed into space. Yumiko, reflected in the light of the sword, floated off into space, still tied to the Egyptian cross; the mass of scale fragments around her looked like snowflakes."</ref> Set in this state absorbed so much magnetite that his ultimate plan was to fuse the human world with the Expanse.<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/he-who-calls-chapter-5.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 5, "He Who Calls" "Isma was convinced that something was Yumiko. Most likely, the high concentration of biological Magnetite within her body had been a major player in creating the magnetic field for summoning. The divine constitution she had inherited from Izanami was nothing but a giant retention of highly concentrated Magnetite. While meager in comparison to that of Yumiko, ordinary humans also held some biological Magnetite. If enough of it was collected, it might be able to create a permanent overlap of the Atziluth and Assiah worlds.<br>Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went."</ref><ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/he-who-calls-chapter-5.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 5, "He Who Calls" "Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went.<br>"Typhon, welcome. Breathe deeply and take in the air of the Assiah world." Isma looked kindly at the enormous snake. "Take a look, your first victim awaits in the shadow of that tree."<br>Isma pointed to the fleeing police officer. Typhon vanished beyond the trees.<br>Meanwhile, Set had transformed into a gigantic, vile pillar of flesh. At its peak, his sinister, glowing red eyes darted all around the area.<br>Typhon's presence is proof that the demon world Set rules is starting to meld with the Assiah world. Now all that remains is gathering more Magnetite and solidifying the connection...<br>Isma's eyes shimmered with madness."</ref> It was also noted in a ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' interview that Set's power was so great Lucifer [https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/kaneko-cozy-narisawa-shin-megami-tensei-ii-interview-part-i/ feared he would destroy Makai],<ref>Kaneko: Seth was Satan’s predecessor. Seth, Sat, Saton, Satan. Thought I’d play a little with that. He’s a demon sealed in Makai, and even Lucifer is afraid he might destroy the place.</ref> Makai is the demon world also known as the Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 which is a higher plane of existence that transcends past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm1-C3g?t=98 of the multiverse]), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] | '''Complex Multiverse level''' ([https://youtu.be/DGnvQK3kHU8?list=PL4UpCLbFZpJGSBjPQoA2aRWT0oTPq1Ezi&t=797 Can fight and defeat] [[Lucifer (Megami Tensei)|Lucifer]], [https://youtu.be/jfqe779mTVg?t=217 who is shown to be a far greater threat then] [[Kagutsuchi (Megami Tensei)|Kagutsuchi]], [https://youtu.be/c_t3wbCKCho who created and sustains the Vortex world], which was resulted from him [https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Miroku_Scripture erasing the past, present and future of the universe], in order to construct the Vortex World in its foundations. [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=1843 Exists as the light that encompasses] [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=987 and administers all of creation within the Amala universe that is said to contain countless worlds] [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=1804 along with being the source to creation] [https://youtu.be/cJ834NlLbgg?t=1411 with his defeat causing the destruction of the Amala universe]. [https://imgur.com/a/isoUifN Merged the Demon World and the Divine World into the remnants of the human realm to create the Vortex World]; the Demon World, best known as the Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 is a higher plane of existence that transcends past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm1-C3g?t=98 of the multiverse]. Capable of empowering the Reason Gods, among which is Ahriman, in order to allow them to reshape the foundation of the Vortex World and birth a new reality), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] | | '''[[Attack Potency]]:''' '''Athlete level''' (Could wrestle with his teacher with a strength one wouldn't imagine from Akemi<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Prologue, Chapter 3, Page 12 "Whispering in synch with the computer, Nakajima continued to enter commands on the keyboard with unbelievable speed. Soon the entire room started to shake from an earthquake, and cracks formed in the windows. Nakajima entered his final command.<br>> KILL: KONDO HIROYUKI, TAKAMIZAWA KYOKO<br>Iida did not like students like Kondo Hiroyuki and Takamizawa Kyoko. In fact, he hated them, but he felt even more loathing for the manner Nakajima intended to deal with them.<br>"Stop this foolishness. If you'd like, I can make sure the incident is investigated fully and have Kondo expelled. Just stop doing this."<br>Stumbling through the shaking room, Iida desperately reached for the computer's power switch. To prevent him from interfering, Nakajima grabbed his arm with a strength one wouldn't even imagine from him. While the two struggled, the rumbling started to subside. The fluorescent lights lit up with a creaking sound and illuminated the room as the freezing air surrounding Iida's body dissipated."</ref>), '''Universe level''' with Cerberus ([https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=1938 Cerberus is] [https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=2316 capable of briefly fighting off] Loki, who can create and sustain his own universe<ref>[http://ddstranslation.blogspot.com/2007/03/part-2-chapter-4.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of the Demon City Part 2, Chapter 4] "The last demon to appear called himself Set, correct?" "Yes, that's right." "While it's too dangerous to try and conjecture the state of affairs in the demon world based on our own knowledge of this one, my theory is that the demon world is like a colloidal conglomeration of countless mini-universes, each centered around a powerful demon. Most likely, with Loki's death, the mini-universe in contact with Japan or Tokyo vanished, and Set's mini-universe entered to take its place. Demon summoning is just opening a contact point between the two worlds at the same time."</ref>). '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/_VRt9U-OeyM?t=762 Observation can be used to massively amplify one's stats, such as when the early game] ''Shin Megami Tensei 1'' protagonist was amplified to be able to fight with all the other end game protagonists and fight Stephen. [https://youtu.be/_VRt9U-OeyM?t=1086 With it's power being noted by Stephen to give humans the potential to exceed the] Axiom) & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] ([https://imgur.com/a/MBUN2th A characters willpower in SMT allows them to increase greatly in strength allowing them to harm enemies they couldn't even scratch before and survive attacks that would have originally kill them], [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=2272 the will of one's friends and allies around them can invigorate one to become far more powerful then before]) | '''Universe level''' ([https://youtu.be/CYI_YmxBfv4?t=2276 With the Hinokagutsuchi], his entire body is empowered and capable of greatly harming and killing Loki<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html Digital Devil Story], Sword of Flame, Chapter 5, Pages 59-60 ""Is this really what Izanami wants...?" Nakajima's palms started sweating with worry.<br>His last-ditch attempt at doing anything by knocking the spheres together produced fireworks that lit the pomade in the room. With a large roar, the flames leapt up and formed a circle in the air. In the center of the pale orange flames, the shape of a human's face formed, and flickered with purpose.<br>Hi-no-Kagutsuchi...<br>It was the god of fire, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi, whom Izanami gave birth to right before she first died. Even though he had not been taught that name by anyone, Nakajima somehow knew it. Instinctively, Nakajima extended his right hand into the flames hovering into the air. Air swirling like a whirlwind, Hi-no-Kagutsuchi's flames painted a spiral shape in the air as they coiled around Nakajima's outstretched hand.<br>Nakajima bit down on his lip and tried to withstand the heat. His skin did not feel like it was being scorched by flames. Instead, it felt as if the flesh and bone making contact with the flame was somehow boiling, giving off heat from within. His flame-enveloped arm gave off a great flash of light so blinding that even the battling Loki and Kerberos stopped for a moment.<br>Rubbing his dazzled eyes, Nakajima realized that his hand, stretched upward toward the ceiling, gripped a sword that emitted a phosphorescent, crimson glow. An overwhelming power the likes of which he had never experienced flowed throughout his body.<br>Without hesitation, Nakajima leapt out of the burial chamber. As his sword emanated its unimaginable aura, Loki's movements faltered for a moment. Not missing a beat, Kerberos bared his fangs and attacked; the instant Loki tried to brush him aside with his hand, he left his face wide open.<br>Nakajima thrust the blade forward with all his might. Reflexively, Loki let go of Izanami and tried to cover his forehead with his right hand, but Nakajima's sword clove it in two. With a feeling of heavy resistance, Nakajima’s sword sank deep into Loki's forehead.<br>"GYAAAH!"<br>Loki's cry shook the very walls of the burial pathway. Clutching his wound with his left hand, Loki staggered to his feet, the sword still embedded in his forehead. Starting from the protoplasmic mass of his lower body, the demon's bronze torso underwent a rapid transformation. With an unpleasant slimy sound, his bronze skin crumbled away. The impaled sword clattered to the ground. Loki's entire body transformed into an undefined, undulating lump.<br>Astonished at his own unexpected power, Nakajima watched as one section of the unstable mass of flesh before him started throbbing. Suddenly, as if it was a separate life of its own, a green heart broke through the protoplasmic mass and tumbled onto the floor. It started to draw a strange figure on the floor with the stream of green blood flowing behind it. As it did so, the air seemed to slightly twist in on itself, centered on the figure the heart was drawing.<br>"That is Loki! Nakajima, do not let the demon escape!"<br>Pulled back to his senses by Izanami's voice, Nakajima swiftly picked the Hi-no-Kagutsuchi sword off the floor and thrust it into the heart of Loki as it tried to escape into the warped space.<br>After an instant of silence, the heart burst like a popped balloon. The undefined mass of flesh stopped writhing.<br>Within a heartbeat, the silence was broken as Nakajima was assaulted by a rumbling roar from deep under the floor of the underground valley. Crimson stones started falling from the high, darkness-blanketed ceiling"</ref>), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] | '''Complex Multiverse level''' (After speaking with Izanami and getting her robe, Akemi was seen as a worthy opponent to fight Set, and eventually defeated Set with the aid of Yumiko.<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 2, "To Space" "So, you really did come after all.<br>Already inside the tower of flesh, a powerful psychic wave assaulted Nakajima's mind. Trying to shake off the head-splitting pain, Nakajima slashed his sword. Surprisingly, the inside of Set's body was easily torn up by the sword of Hi-no-Kagutsuchi.<br>What you are so gleefully cutting up are the bodies of the humans that have become a part of me. Dice them up to your heart's content.<br>Set's scornful psychic wave seemed to be almost pleased that a somewhat worthy opponent had appeared.<br>Where is Yumiko? Give her back!<br>There was no response.<br>Instead, the space in front of Nakajima suddenly opened up. With a sickening sound, boiling swamp of blood appeared. One of the sticky bubbles burst. A human hand reached out. As if on cue, one by one, naked, stooped-over humans came crawling out of the swamp, dripping with fresh blood."</ref><ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/warrior-of-demon-city.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City] Chapter 6, "To Space" "Freed from his spatial constraints, Set could now roam through space without restraint. One moment he seemed to attack with his foul, enormous mouth, and the next instant he vanished into the vacuum, reappearing to strike with his thick, heavy tail. Dodging alone took all of Nakajima's concentration.<br>However, Set's movements appeared to be slowing. Looking closely, the minor demons had amassed at one point on the giant serpent's body, clawing at it. Now that the satellite had been destroyed, they had lost the artificially generated magnetic field and were now competing with each other to cling to Set's body in an attempt to materialize in the Assiah world. Dodging the now-slowed Set's fangs, Nakajima quickly dove beneath the body of the snake.<br>Now, Nakajima!<br>Encouraged by Yumiko's voice, Nakajima stabbed his sword into the throng of lesser demons.<br>SPLUTCH!<br>For an instant, as if time had stopped, Set's movements ceased. Like thick glass penetrated by a bullet, cracks started spreading over the scales covering the enormous serpent. The cracked were centered on the sword lodged in its trunk. After a moment of silence, Set's body shattered into tiny fragments and dispersed into space. Yumiko, reflected in the light of the sword, floated off into space, still tied to the Egyptian cross; the mass of scale fragments around her looked like snowflakes."</ref> Set in this state absorbed so much magnetite that his ultimate plan was to fuse the human world with the Expanse.<ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/he-who-calls-chapter-5.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 5, "He Who Calls" "Isma was convinced that something was Yumiko. Most likely, the high concentration of biological Magnetite within her body had been a major player in creating the magnetic field for summoning. The divine constitution she had inherited from Izanami was nothing but a giant retention of highly concentrated Magnetite. While meager in comparison to that of Yumiko, ordinary humans also held some biological Magnetite. If enough of it was collected, it might be able to create a permanent overlap of the Atziluth and Assiah worlds.<br>Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went."</ref><ref>[http://menasepublications.blogspot.com/2010/12/he-who-calls-chapter-5.html Digital Devil Story 2: Warrior of Demon City], Chapter 5, "He Who Calls" "Having already formed a contract with Set, Isma borrowed his power to summon many people to attempt to create a tower of human flesh. And everything was proceeding according to plan. Even now, the heavens split with terrible thunder, and Set's most powerful servant, the great serpent Typhon, reared its head into the air as it slithered from behind a black curtain, knocking over the Soga Forest's trees as it went.<br>"Typhon, welcome. Breathe deeply and take in the air of the Assiah world." Isma looked kindly at the enormous snake. "Take a look, your first victim awaits in the shadow of that tree."<br>Isma pointed to the fleeing police officer. Typhon vanished beyond the trees.<br>Meanwhile, Set had transformed into a gigantic, vile pillar of flesh. At its peak, his sinister, glowing red eyes darted all around the area.<br>Typhon's presence is proof that the demon world Set rules is starting to meld with the Assiah world. Now all that remains is gathering more Magnetite and solidifying the connection...<br>Isma's eyes shimmered with madness."</ref> It was also noted in a ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' interview that Set's power was so great Lucifer [https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/kaneko-cozy-narisawa-shin-megami-tensei-ii-interview-part-i/ feared he would destroy Makai],<ref>Kaneko: Seth was Satan’s predecessor. Seth, Sat, Saton, Satan. Thought I’d play a little with that. He’s a demon sealed in Makai, and even Lucifer is afraid he might destroy the place.</ref>), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] | '''Multiverse Cell level''' ([https://youtu.be/DGnvQK3kHU8?list=PL4UpCLbFZpJGSBjPQoA2aRWT0oTPq1Ezi&t=797 Can fight and defeat] [[Lucifer (Megami Tensei)|Angel Form Lucifer]], who is far beyond his demon form, [https://youtu.be/jfqe779mTVg?t=217 who is shown to be a far greater threat then] [[Kagutsuchi (Megami Tensei)|Kagutsuchi]], [https://youtu.be/c_t3wbCKCho who created and sustains the Vortex world], which resulted from him [https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Miroku_Scripture erasing the past, present and future of the universe], in order to construct the Vortex World in its foundations. [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=1843 Exists as the light that encompasses] [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=987 and administers all of creation within the Amala universe that is said to contain countless worlds] [https://youtu.be/i7jFy187Fvk?t=1804 along with being the source to creation] [https://youtu.be/cJ834NlLbgg?t=1411 with his defeat causing the destruction of the Amala universe]. [https://imgur.com/a/isoUifN Merged the Demon World and the Divine World into the remnants of the human realm to create the Vortex World]. Capable of empowering the Reason Gods, among which is Ahriman, in order to allow them to reshape the foundation of the Vortex World and birth a new reality), '''Far Higher''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] & [[Willpower (Megami Tensei)|Willpower]] |
| '''[[Range]]:''' '''Standard Melee Range''', '''Extended Melee Range''' with Hinokagutsuchi, '''Cross-Dimensional''' with Summoned Demons ([https://imgur.com/a/lqQRrE8 Demons passively create adecoherence field, that is essentially a special dimension of quantum fluctuation that they exist in, where humans cannot see them], and can attack from there. [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=6825 Demons can also create mirage realms], [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=7150 that shroud an entire area in mist], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FV51PZ1ds&t=1802s with them being able to attack from inside said illusion without being capable of being attacked back], [https://youtu.be/p5FV51PZ1ds?t=2248 requiring the user to go inside of their illusion to fight them]), At least '''Cantorversal''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=490 Can affect beings such as] [[YHVH]] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 through their observation]. [[YHVH]] [https://imgur.com/a/eNIH9qI is the progenitor of all gods and all religions from all around the world, existing as the one true original god]. [https://imgur.com/a/AQppUyn Turned all other gods in the pantheon into demons]. [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html He is viewed as an omnipotent existence that created everything]<ref>Profile: The actual One God of monotheism. The One God praised by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He is the omnipotent existence that created heaven and earth and made man in his own image, but this also means that together with the angels, his bunrei [subparts], he also gave birth to demons. By giving humans bodies of flesh and bone, their lives and fears were repeated in the endless cycle of death and rebirth, restricting their range of observation.</ref> [https://youtu.be/sBJn2IrfER4?t=171 A single manifestation head is so far beyond all of creation that not even his creations blades can harm him].<ref>The reason YHVH is harmed during this fight is due to humanity's [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|observation]] weakening him, as there's no reason for YHVH to be lying</ref> [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=85 YHVH is a being who created] [http://shmuplations.com/smt/ infinite universes], [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=70 and exists beyond the very boundaries of time within the multiverse]. [https://imgur.com/hBzsNkT The multiverse is] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl2ZXAZeN3Q&t=19s&ab_channel=davidramons composed of] [https://youtu.be/XvzWQt8jmTA?t=22 information and] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8oNYHRuJw&t=9995s&ab_channel=BuffMaister data], [https://youtu.be/defQEm1-C3g?t=1477 further proven with] [[Stephen (Shin Megami Tensei)|Stephen]] having attacks that can code beings that the world, this would make SMT a mathematical multiverse falling under the [[Multiverse#Max_Tegmark's_Multiverse|level 4 multiverse]], [https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/crazy.html a multiverse where every possible mathematical structure and be described at some level], [https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/set-theory/ which would include any possible level of reality that can be conceived of using set theory]. Which would include planes such as Akarana Corridor [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=957 a void that transcends time and space], [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=886 with it requiring a special ritual to enter], where even the Herald of Yatagarasu cannot put Raidou into this place,<ref>The Herald of Yatagarsu is [https://youtu.be/SJhzC5B5HGA?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=727 capable of teleporting Raidou into] The Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm1-C3g?t=98 of the multiverse] but cannot even reach this realm, along with this she [https://imgur.com/a/PxAg9xW exists a plane not apart of the human world], further showing how out of reach this plane is, [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=1043 it requires one normally to discard their human form and transcribe themselves otherwise they are threatened with being unstuck from time]</ref> putting it beyond even The Expanse [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm1-C3g?t=98 of the multiverse]. The true form views [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=246 the multiverse and his manifestation head are infinitesimal in size compared to him], and he exists as [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=165 an incomprehensible] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=450 transcendent being overseeing everything in his creation]. [https://youtu.be/L23HK4gdQY0?t=516 His universe is a place beyond reality that is more vague and more infinite then anything the cast has seen before] [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 which includes areas such as the expanse] and Akrana Corridor, and his single manifestation head. Along with this, [https://youtu.be/_VRt9U-OeyM?t=1086 humans observation has the potential to exceed] [[The Axiom]], [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html who exists in a realm beyond every other realm prior]<ref>Shioda: Is it correct to think that humanity was created by the Great Reason rather than by the gods?<br>Yamai: In the beginning, I believe, pure humans were made as observers of the universe. Then, as time passed, gods and polytheism appeared as the result of their perception of the surrounding world.<br>Miyata: Nozomi says at some point that it’s all right for people to be unsure, but in the underground it is believed that the gods are one of the answers hypothesised by humans. From her point of view, the gods are a symbol of the ideal imagined by humans and the perfect form envisioned by them as their target, their final point. Monotheism, on the other hand, only has one final target, but there are many ideals to pursue. This is tied to Nozomi’s lines above. It’s all right if there are bad guys and if there are good people, there will also be fickle ones. Nozomi’s credo is that everyone should choose their own destination.<br>Yamai: Even when talking about the creation of the universe, I think the birth of the Great Reason is beyond our ideals. The universe we can observe stretches over 130 billion light years, but we don’t know how it managed to appear from nothing. Gods like Izanagi, who birthed out of his eyes and nose, were perhaps a symbol of a farming culture, but they had a power that surpassed the humans’ power of understanding and I dare say that in the case of the Great Reason too, if emotions were to arise, those emotions themselves would become gods. I’m talking about that kind of creation. For example, the wish to be worshipped gave birth to [[YHVH]], or seeing the fights between humans signified the appearance of Lucifer. I think this is similar to the trends and movements born out of people’s shared consciousness nowadays. Let’s look at Japan’s concept of cuteness: if it spread throughout the whole world, maybe it would lead to the birth of a new god. I had this vague thought that the backbone of the Great Reason would begin like a pure baby who would pick up various emotions through touch, gradually learning about its surroundings.<br>Shioda: So it’s something along the lines of a god born out of the collective unconscious which came from shared awareness?<br>Yamai: That’s right, don’t you all just love it? (laughs)<br>Miyata: I certainly think there is some sort of huge collective unconscious, but I never really thought it might be connected to the Great Reason. And speaking of shared awareness, the scale would be quite small depending on the surroundings; the Japanese would have their shared awareness, but it would be different from that of foreigners. For example, even if the Japanese saw themselves as without religion, they’d look Buddhist to foreigners. This kind of thing leads me to think that the Great Reason is not at the surface of shared awareness, but belongs instead to an extremely deep part of the origin.<br>Shioda: I personally think that the term ‘bunrei’ [spirit divisions] often used to name gods in the story is extremely important in this game. The Great Reason is the origin. Does that make [[YHVH]] and all the other gods ‘bunrei’?<br>Yamai: Yes, it does. I think we can explain the existence of ‘bunrei’ through polytheism resulted from human perception. In the Celtic world, the druids saw Dagda as the forefather of sorcerers, but this was different for the Norse people or the Germanic culture. The people of each civilisation would see things as it fit them, so we got Odin instead. ‘Bunrei’ are born like this, but then again, treating Dagda and Odin as identical is wrong. Their powers and responsibilities are different, so it’s better for them to be thought of as different entities. Let’s have a look at [[YHVH]]: when he was born, humans perhaps observed [[YHVH]] himself, but once the scriptures were written, Uriel would be the one to be noticed and maybe that’s why he made so many appearances in their pages. Uriel frequently appearing as [[YHVH]]’s messenger also kind of feels like an accessory that comes to the front in order to preserve [[YHVH]]’s solemnity. But that is the result of the perception of later people, so we can also say that Uriel is a part [bunrei] of [[YHVH]].</ref>) | | '''[[Range]]:''' '''Standard Melee Range''', '''Extended Melee Range''' with Hinokagutsuchi, '''Cross-Dimensional''' with Summoned Demons ([https://imgur.com/a/lqQRrE8 Demons passively create adecoherence field, that is essentially a special dimension of quantum fluctuation that they exist in, where humans cannot see them], and can attack from there. [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=6825 Demons can also create mirage realms], [https://youtu.be/KYU8J4N80Lw?t=7150 that shroud an entire area in mist], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FV51PZ1ds&t=1802s with them being able to attack from inside said illusion without being capable of being attacked back], [https://youtu.be/p5FV51PZ1ds?t=2248 requiring the user to go inside of their illusion to fight them]), '''Complex Multiversal''' with [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|Observation]] ([https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=490 Can affect beings such as] [[YHVH]] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 through their observation]. [https://youtu.be/L23HK4gdQY0?t=513 YHVH's own universe is more vague and more infinite then anything] [[Nanashi]] or [[Flynn (Shin Megami Tensei)|Flynn]] have ever seen<ref>Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse: YHVH's Universe Entrance</ref>, where they've seen [https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Ouroboros#Shin_Megami_Tensei_IV demons such as] Ouroboros, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spraSlJLBXc&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=404s who is the embodiment] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spraSlJLBXc&list=PLAV-xzjVBR0UtRCaE75gwmT465Rq_PTQ0&t=525s of infinity]<ref>SMT: Strange Journey REDUX - Boss: Ouroboros</ref>, putting it at least beyond [[Cardinality|ℵ1 in size]]. [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=246 With even YHVH himself noting he is infinity]<ref>Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse YHVH Boss</ref>, and he exists as [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=165 an incomprehensible] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=450 transcendent being overseeing everything in his creation]. [https://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html He is viewed as an omnipotent existence that created everything]<ref>Profile: The actual One God of monotheism. The One God praised by Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He is the omnipotent existence that created heaven and earth and made man in his own image, but this also means that together with the angels, his bunrei [subparts], he also gave birth to demons. By giving humans bodies of flesh and bone, their lives and fears were repeated in the endless cycle of death and rebirth, restricting their range of observation.</ref> . [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=85 which would mean he created]<ref>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei II: Law Ending</ref> [http://shmuplations.com/smt/ infinite universes]<ref>([https://web.archive.org/web/20231001175136/https://shmuplations.com/smt/ Web Archive link in case link ever dies]</ref>, [https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=70 and exists beyond the very boundaries of time within the multiverse]<ref>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei II: Law Ending</ref>. Which would include planes such as Akarana Corridor [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=957 a void that transcends time and space], [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=886 with it requiring a special ritual to enter], where even the Herald of Yatagarasu cannot put Raidou into this place<ref>The Herald of Yatagarsu is [https://youtu.be/SJhzC5B5HGA?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=727 capable of teleporting Raidou into] The Expanse, [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse] but cannot even reach this realm, along with this she [https://imgur.com/a/PxAg9xW exists a plane not apart of the human world], further showing how out of reach this plane is, [https://youtu.be/haOVB8wCagU?list=PLZ-IDxWdqee_02DqvdXSdY3BjrLzAaxAY&t=1043 it requires one normally to discard their human form and transcribe themselves otherwise they are threatened with being unstuck from time]</ref>, putting it beyond even The Expanse [https://youtu.be/8kNv01GNrpE?t=104 a place that transcends the past, present, and future] [https://youtu.be/defQEm2-A3g?t=98 of the multiverse]<ref>SMT IV SIDE-Quest guide: For the Past... for the Future</ref>. Viewed as so immeasurably powerful that the combined cast of SMT IV Apocalypse, [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=526 needed to] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=637 deny his divine nature] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=676 and form understandings] [https://youtu.be/dFuKLmruIzQ?t=853 repeatedly] through the use of [[Observation (Megami Tensei)|obseravtion]] in order to defeat him) |